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View Poll Results: You like A.S.C.T. idea ALL SPRINT CARS WELCOME with 1425 weight rule with driver?
YES I LIKE THE IDEA 26 37.14%
NO DON'T LOKE THE IDEA 26 37.14%
NOT SURE 3 4.29%
JUST HOPE THE American Sprint Car Tour IS A SUCCESS. 19 27.14%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 70. You may not vote on this poll
racerdog45
  #11 4/22/10 1:31 PM
Anyone else notice a few certain people have been absent from commenting on this issue? And funny out of that same group of people NONE of them brought this to the board, even tho they post everything else related to this series..... let's do a new poll or better yet take bets on how long this new series lasts, I say gone by 4th of July myself.....
Eagle14 (Offline)
  #12 4/22/10 2:55 PM
I just figure as long as no forms are needed and my s.s. number wouldn't be required you should be OK to race. Sounds DOA..atleast already on life support and it hasn't even started.....flat line. Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
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Jerry Shaw (Offline)
  #13 4/22/10 3:37 PM
Originally Posted by Eagle14:
I just figure as long as no forms are needed and my s.s. number wouldn't be required you should be OK to race. Sounds DOA..atleast already on life support and it hasn't even started.....flat line. Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
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Exactly. When I saw the title of this thread, today, what I saw was a death rattle. This series probably wasn't going to be successful anyways, but shedding their "steel blocks only" nature gives up the only possible niche that they had. That's just my opinion.

Jerry

A man is about as big as the things that make him angry.

Winston Churchill
USAC Fan
  #14 4/22/10 3:41 PM
Originally Posted by Pushtruck:
I have a pretty good idea of why the decision was made and why it was made before the season started. There simply were not enough steel block cars that could commit to running the opening season ASCT schedule. Without a full field of cars at each event, you don't have a show and therefore you don't have a series. Steel block car counts were a problem with the SCORA series as well.

ASCT has a purse structure that pays deeper into the field instead of putting all the money in the winners pocket. That structure is needed at more race tracks. Opening the series to aluminum block cars with a minimum weight rule (1425 with driver) will help balance some of the weight advantages the aluminum block cars have over the steel block cars while allowing the ASCT a better opportunity to have full fields.

I applaud them for making this change before the season starts instead of flip flopping the rules mid season. I like the format and direction the series is trying to go in and wish them success. I think this series is still the best place for steel block cars to race by making aluminum block cars have a minimum weight rule. JMO
Please don't misunderstand what I'm trying to say I never thought there was any way a steel-block only series would work and wondered why after SCORA failed was someone trying the same exact thing.

I just don't believe he should have been on here everytime trumpeting that aluminum blocks would never be allowed when we all knew he would have to cave eventually due to poor car counts, i just thought it would be at least a few races into the year. Guess not.

Good lukc John Gurley. Betting I'll have to retire my ASCT t-shirt right next to my SCORA shirt in a few months.
quicktime3 (Offline)
  #15 4/22/10 4:29 PM
Who is going to travel to all these dates? Some of them are pretty good trips.
Most of those places do not have great track records...
john3g
  #16 4/22/10 4:50 PM
This is not an official post by the ASCT group. If anyone wants to call me I'll be glad to explain why we did this. Our purses will speak for themselves and the list of competitors will suprise you. Read the Q+A that was posted and if you still don't understand it call me.812-420-1973.
raceofficial47348 (Offline)
  #17 4/22/10 5:59 PM
Im looking at it from a fan point of view. When a fan as like myself you go and watch sprints cars you don't care if there steel blocks or not. But you do care to see a good race and people making it happen have a good show for the fans. Im looking forward in seeing this series when they come to Montpelier on June 4. They also seem to care about racing not only with sprints and midgets plus the supporting classes along with them.
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USAC Fan
  #18 4/22/10 6:56 PM
Originally Posted by john3g:
This is not an official post by the ASCT group. If anyone wants to call me I'll be glad to explain why we did this. Our purses will speak for themselves and the list of competitors will suprise you. Read the Q+A that was posted and if you still don't understand it call me.812-420-1973.
Why is it a secret all of the sudden?
spicoli (Offline)
  #19 4/22/10 7:17 PM
I applaud John for making this decision.

I won't throw my arm out of joint patting myself on the back, since I was one of the first to recommend allowing alum block cars.

I think we should all chill out and see if one of their races may be close to home, and we should all attend and support this group. We all love open wheel racng, right?

There's about (6) races I'll bring my car to, now that alum blocks are OK. I'll bring friends and family.

I do have (2) complaints.

John, you should man up and not hide behind your e mail as to why you made this choice. You've used this board for free advertising for how long? Now you don't want to talk to those of us that are you're target audience, all of a sudden? Bad move.

I think, and this is just my opinion (I know, I know, opinions are like...), but the one thing that will hold this series back now is the distance between tracks. I live outside Chicago and the races in Freeport, Il and Wisc are just too far for me. Same for the races in Kentucky.

But, you are bringing non wing sprint cars, my favorite, to tracks that otherwise wouldn't have them, and I am grateful for that.

I will race with you as much as possible and I encourage everyone to go see a show.

Shoot, Kieth Ford from Paragon posted about his races a few weeks ago, and he said, "If you can't come to Paragon, at least support your local track"
DonMoore10 (Offline)
  #20 4/22/10 7:20 PM
Race fans (?????????) on a public message board ambushing a series that hasn't even started. Unbelievable.
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