i miss when things were simple

JDONAMO · 5/27/13, 7:21 AM

not that the car counts are terrible , but it seems like there were more cars around when we didnt run anti sway bars , cockpit adjustable shocks and stops , and we werent soaking tires

DaveP63 · 5/27/13, 6:10 PM

Once upon a time we had an adjustable shock and put the can in the cockpit for the driver to tinker with. Eventually, I disconnected it and left the can in there for him to tinker with.

Go Fast · 5/27/13, 7:46 PM

While the things you list above add to the cost of racing, they are a mere drop in the bucket compared to the cost of tires. When a RR costs $225 and you need at least two every night, where is the incentive for an owner to field a car. At a local show the purse is $1400 to win, two tires are 32% of the winnings, and that is if you win. Run second and you lose money big time after paying the driver.

fasster23 · 5/28/13, 2:27 PM

Valley Speedway in Grain Valley MO there's no cockpit adjustments. Run what ya brung motor rule. 18" Medium RR which no one replaces weekly. 1500 lbs. it only pays $700 to win but they avg 20-25 cars every week.

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Bill Gardner · 5/28/13, 8:00 PM

The old DT3 tire back in late 90's-early 2000's was a brick.

I wish that tire would be used today.

I know LPS had the DT3 rule... Who else did? I thought we used the D10 / D12 or RD12 at the other tracks & USAC.

The HT2 tire feels similiar to the old D12 or RD12.

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4wheelsinthekoosh · 5/28/13, 8:40 PM

Sway bars have been used since the 80s just in different forms of sprint racing (pavement). Why would I buy 5 to 7 different shocks per corner then have just one adjustable? And if you have a driver that lives and breaths setups and how the car works adjusters in the cockpit will only help. If you don't have one of those drivers find one cause they are going to be hard to beat. And you can thank usac for the ht2 the owners and drivers wanted something different than the dt3. They got what they wanted so all local track changed to so you wouldn't have to have two different tires. Just one constant RR

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Bill Gardner · 5/28/13, 9:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 4wheelsinthekoosh

the owners and drivers wanted something different than the dt3

If that is the case then they need to dial 7838 when they want to talk about rising costs. Lol

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4wheelsinthekoosh · 5/28/13, 9:23 PM

Yes yes they do bill.

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batch56 · 5/28/13, 11:33 PM

I like a spec RR tire rule. I am probably not going to go buy different tires to run Paragon, Waynesfield, Clay County or any other track that has a open tire rule. Like Gary said previously, It is hard enough to keep good tires on a car with a spec rule. just my opinion.

JDONAMO · 5/31/13, 10:02 PM

im not saying to not allow adjustable shocks . just no **** pit adjusters . the tire rule is no good if you have to buy a tire more than once a weekend ! ive been around a day or two and have seen my share of sway bars , just saying that things seemed simpler when they werent as common.by the way how much is a good cockpit adjustable shock set up per corner , when i was on a deal they were salty , around 200.00 a corner . 800.00 for the car , another four in the trailer , well you all know seems salty to me , i havent had a deal in a minute so im betting they are 4 to 5 hundred a corner . again just a thought..

5/28/13, 8:40 PM	#6
4wheelsinthekoosh Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 316	Sway bars have been used since the 80s just in different forms of sprint racing (pavement). Why would I buy 5 to 7 different shocks per corner then have just one adjustable? And if you have a driver that lives and breaths setups and how the car works adjusters in the cockpit will only help. If you don't have one of those drivers find one cause they are going to be hard to beat. And you can thank usac for the ht2 the owners and drivers wanted something different than the dt3. They got what they wanted so all local track changed to so you wouldn't have to have two different tires. Just one constant RR Posted via Mobile Device

5/28/13, 9:23 PM	#8
4wheelsinthekoosh Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 316	Yes yes they do bill. Posted via Mobile Device

5/31/13, 10:02 PM	#10 Re: i miss when things were simple
JDONAMO Inactive Member Race Count This Year: 6 Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 73	im not saying to not allow adjustable shocks . just no **** pit adjusters . the tire rule is no good if you have to buy a tire more than once a weekend ! ive been around a day or two and have seen my share of sway bars , just saying that things seemed simpler when they werent as common.by the way how much is a good cockpit adjustable shock set up per corner , when i was on a deal they were salty , around 200.00 a corner . 800.00 for the car , another four in the trailer , well you all know seems salty to me , i havent had a deal in a minute so im betting they are 4 to 5 hundred a corner . again just a thought..