[racin jason]

Originally Posted by Wallsracing I would like to ask 1 question...1st of all great show ..does mscs re-draw or draw numbers.....how did your pole starter get the pole and he wasnt even out of the car yet...do you draw before the heat race or what .not taking anything away from anyone....just asking a question

Great question Lloyd,

The MSCS has 2 pills draws at our trailer. The 1st draw is for starting spot in your heat. The 2nd draw is incase you win your heat it will determine where the heat winners start in the A. Last night Jon Stanbrough's 2nd draw was a 68, Jon Siscoe's 2nd draw was a 95, and Robert Ballou's 2nd draw was a 98. So the lowest 2nd draw number from all heat race winners will start on the pole and trickle down from there.

Racin Jason Adams

[Big Willy]

Sorry i obviously missed the post... Thanks again and my apologies to the open wheel fans for having to see the results
(let alone having to sit through a late model race)...

[nonwingnit]

Let me see if I have my facts straight and if any of these are wrong i'll call you and you can correct me but I'm pretty sure you won't find anything wrong:

FACT: it was your race
FACT: mscs was making decisions according to their rules
FACT: under their rules you can't put fuel in at any time even in work area
FACT: you were at over 80 laps including yellows
FACT: 4 guys ran out of fuel you went yellow
FACT: you then went red and allowed rest of field to refuel
FACT: you put 4 guys who ran out of fuel back on tail
FACT: all their fuel cells are same size
FACT: it was 2.5 hour feature
FACT: you didn't calculate fuel stop or you wouldn't have had 4 guys run out on same lap
FACT: you didn't tell those guys to be prepared for 80+ lap race with no fuel stop FACT: you did have them come out before feature and run the water into the track adding additional laps
Now what don't I have straight so I can quit "bashing" you? I'm just curious why you would punish 4 guys for your oversight by sending them to the tail?
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Originally Posted by nonwingnit Let me see if I have my facts straight and if any of these are wrong i'll call you and you can correct me but I'm pretty sure you won't find anything wrong: FACT: it was your race FACT: mscs was making decisions according to their rules FACT: under their rules you can't put fuel in at any time even in work area FACT: you were at over 80 laps including yellows FACT: 4 guys ran out of fuel you went yellow FACT: you then went red and allowed rest of field to refuel FACT: you put 4 guys who ran out of fuel back on tail FACT: all their fuel cells are same size FACT: it was 2.5 hour feature FACT: you didn't calculate fuel stop or you wouldn't have had 4 guys run out on same lap FACT: you didn't tell those guys to be prepared for 80+ lap race with no fuel stop FACT: you did have them come out before feature and run the water into the track adding additional laps Now what don't I have straight so I can quit "bashing" you? I'm just curious why you would punish 4 guys for your oversight by sending them to the tail? Posted via Mobile Device

Sorry that is a reply to racin Jason - forgot to hit the reply to post button
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[jjones776]

hey nonwingnit.... im pretty sure you have made your point. its over and there is nothing that can be done about it. if it hurt you as bad as it seems, i would recommend you just not attend another MSCS race.

[nonwingnit]

Originally Posted by jjones776 hey nonwingnit.... im pretty sure you have made your point. its over and there is nothing that can be done about it. if it hurt you as bad as it seems, i would recommend you just not attend another MSCS race.

Sorry for offending you. I have enjoyed many mscs races it was the "bashing" thing and "getting my facts straight" that bothered me. Sorry
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[Wallsracing]

Originally Posted by nonwingnit sorry for offending you. I have enjoyed many mscs races it was the "bashing" thing and "getting my facts straight" that bothered me. Sorry posted via mobile device

why dont you state your name like everyone else

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Originally Posted by racin jason great question lloyd, the mscs has 2 pills draws at our trailer. The 1st draw is for starting spot in your heat. The 2nd draw is incase you win your heat it will determine where the heat winners start in the a. Last night jon stanbrough's 2nd draw was a 68, jon siscoe's 2nd draw was a 95, and robert ballou's 2nd draw was a 98. So the lowest 2nd draw number from all heat race winners will start on the pole and trickle down from there. Racin jason adams

thanks i heard chris nunn trying to explain it but it was kinda noisey....thanks again

I’m going to try to be as nice as I can be so bare with me. First off I have to give a huge thank you to Tommy Helfrich for all his help in getting in, what should have been a canceled show. Thank god it wasn’t a USAC race or it would have been done before it got started. The positive was that we got to see a race at one of history’s most famous race tracks. However there were a few negatives as well. The one tow truck deal is inexcusable. The Action Track staff blew it on that one to be sure. The race track was to be expected,I mean what did you really expect? The woman’s rest rooms need to be addressed as well. I mean if there not fixed where is “Motormasher” and “Superduke” going to go to relieve themselves? There was an actual problem with them and does need to be addressed. Now let me get a couple of things straight. The MSCS feature was a marathon but it was not the fault of the MSCS staff. They didn’t run 80 laps total before the competition red was brought out. The MSCS staff had said from the get go that the magic number was going to be 70 laps and at that point a competition red was given. I also want to thank “RacinJason” for making the two day marathon fun for me we had a lot of laughs along with Chris Nunn. The ILMS feature had it’s problems to but again the race track has to take a lot of the blame with only one tow truck and the track condition being as it was. The ILMS guys were a lot of fun to be with in the tower and they are a great group. The next item I want to mention is that “The rich kid from New York” out classed the field is total “BS”!! If you “Motormasher” would get off your ass and come to a race you could see for yourself. I talked to you earlier in the week and you said you where going to be there as did a few others so I don’t want to hear how bad the race was or how this sucks or that sucks when you won’t or can’t show up. The SCORA series has had some GREAT races but is on the verge of collapse due to the “I’ll shows” that never seem to show. The series was designed for a particular group of racers that said they wanted a series to run in but so far we have only had a handful of teams that have committed themselves to the series. So if it goes down the tubes you have only you to blame but don’t you dare bad mouth the guys that have showed up to support Sam and the series. I just as soon have your type just shut up and stay at home and there is nothing "YAWN" about our guys or our races!!! Oh on a side note Alex Coonan is at home now with a neck injury and I’ll try to get a hold of him or his family tomorrow to get an update.

John Gurley

wow...............

[Chris Nunn]

I just want to say thanks to Superduke for the nasty private message

Made my day.

Mr Happy..Yeah...I know but I've had enough....