Who thinks it’s better?

Charles Nungester · 7/15/23, 5:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kendirt

Slightly larger tanks.

Late Models are on gas so you're looking at 50-100% better fuel mileage.

Modifieds typically don't make the power of either a Sprint Car or Late Model. Even if they do, especially if they do, they're not on the throttle all the way around like the two other classes.

We ran alcohol at bigger shows but changed carbs for High octane gas for regular shows.

We are well past the point of these cars using more fuel than tradition racing and small tanks call for.

What was a sprint tank in gallons in say 1975? I know they were bigger

Frank Reiner · 7/15/23, 5:53 PM

Green flag fuel flow for winged 410s will be about 2 gallons per minute, hence about 25-26 gallons for 12.5 minutes (50 laps) under green. Yellow flag fuel flow will be about .6 gal/minute. How many minutes of yellow were there at the Million?

Stevensville Mike · 7/15/23, 6:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank Reiner

Green flag fuel flow for winged 410s will be about 2 gallons per minute, hence about 25-26 gallons for 12.5 minutes (50 laps) under green. Yellow flag fuel flow will be about .6 gal/minute. How many minutes of yellow were there at the Million?

Way too many in the first heat, Frank.

Stevensville Mike · 7/15/23, 7:01 PM

So far no one posting here likes it, me included. Go figure. I'd like to take this thread in a different angle. I am sure my bud flagboy55 won't mind.

If they are doing it at the Eldora Million, and they have been doing it at the Knoxville Nationals, two of the most prestigious races in our country, WHY are they doing it? What is GOOD about it? There are always two sides to every story. Sometimes more.

So what is good about it?

1 - We get more laps. It turns into a bit of an enduro with a 50 lap run. 25, 30..... the usual run for an A Main. So the fans get more and the A Main lasts longer.

2 - Every team knows there is going to be a caution flag at Lap X. One can tweak their strategy to adjust to that break. Kind of gets the crews a little more involved than just the driver finding the right line, adjusting the bars, moving the wing back and forth, etc.

What I would like to see if we are going to continue to go down this road, is to only allow refueling during the caution/stage break. Don't even let them TOUCH anything else on the car. No tires, no air pressure adjustments, no spacer changes. You have what you have at the break. You will have only that plus fule after the break.

Charles said earlier in the thread with respect to NASCAR: Giving points is fine at certain stages, but don't stop the race. For the sprinters, if you stop it, you just let them refuel.

What else might be good about a mid-way break like this, gents? Play the debate team game. You may not agree with the side you are on, or WANT to be on that side, but try and sell everyone listening your side.

opnwhlmnd · 7/15/23, 7:27 PM

Saw a sprint car race that paid 7 figures.
Good enough for me. No complaints.

Chief Wahoo · 7/15/23, 7:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevensville Mike

What else might be good about a mid-way break like this, gents?

I can get quick pee break in.

flagboy55 · 7/15/23, 7:40 PM

Mike, you kinda came around to some of where I wanted to go after we got some data. Very unscientific and small sample size, but out of all participants we got maybe 1 that’s ok with it. Like you said and where I wanted to go eventually was who decides it has to be this way? I’ll bet you a beer and a hotdog that the majority of FANS think like we do. Now as I’ve said all along, thank you Smoke, Flo and Eldora for putting on the event. But judging from this research, it’s not what the people want. Almost sounds like the government is involved 😉

Stevensville Mike · 7/15/23, 8:29 PM

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Originally Posted by chief wahoo

i can get quick pee break in.

mc/rider · 7/15/23, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Wahoo

I can get quick pee break in.

Aaaaaahh

oldfan49 · 7/16/23, 10:01 AM

It's called a sprint race with sprint cars for a reason.
To me the days when the crew chief and the driver walked the track and then went back and set the car up the way they thought would be the best over the whole of the race.
With no wing sliders, shock adjusters, or pit stops the setup was not the best for the whole race and the adjustments were the driver's talent.