[Ray3]

Originally Posted by leftrear That's the thing that record was set in 2015 and the reason is they have not run 20 lap features at APS for ages until the new engine program came out. Scott Hatton is also one of the best ever to run APS and probably has more laps there than just about anyone. I was curious if this was just a reliability thing at first but it is still 20 lappers so what is the reason lol ?

No reliability issues with Badger engines. It all falls with the promoter. Contact the promoter if you want to see more laps from Badger. As for the record, it was set by a Fontana and beat by a Badger Honda. The Badger engine lap times and competitiveness against the POWRI cars during the Pepsi Nationals spoke loud and clear. Badger cars won the first heat and finished second in the second heat and ran competitively in the feature turning the 5th and 11th best laps of the race.

[Midget98]

Originally Posted by Ray3 He is referring to Badger races not D2 races. Not the same thing. Let me reiterate, NOT THE SAME. Even POWRI D2 isn't D2 anymore.

Not D2... More like D1.5

[leftrear]

Ray I have a lot of respect for what you are doing.

Is there anywhere in the WORLD other than APS and BADGER that run 20 lap MIDGET A MAINS ?

[kendirt]

Originally Posted by leftrear Ray I have a lot of respect for what you are doing. Is there anywhere in the WORLD other than APS and BADGER that run 20 lap MIDGET A MAINS ?

IMRA typically runs 20 lap features.

As was said earlier, no one from Badger dictates the feature lengths at APS.

[Ray3]

Originally Posted by leftrear Ray I have a lot of respect for what you are doing. Is there anywhere in the WORLD other than APS and BADGER that run 20 lap MIDGET A MAINS ?

Badger runs 25 lap features at all tracks other than Angell Park. If you have an issue with laps at Angell Park contact either the promoter (Kenny Brown) or the Angell Park board of directors. Thats all I can tell you to do.

and for the record, USAC Western States has run 20 lap features at certain tracks and I've personally been to 360 Sprint Car races where the feature was less than 20 laps.

[Ray3]

Originally Posted by Midget98 Not D2... More like D1.5

Lets just say Badger Midgets, just as it was when Badger didn't allow the Offy engines to compete with them.

[jdull99]

Originally Posted by Ray3 He is referring to Badger races not D2 races. Not the same thing. Let me reiterate, NOT THE SAME. Even POWRI D2 isn't D2 anymore.

So...if they are "not the same thing" does that mean you are no longer welcoming the cars from the "Burlington and Spoon River" area??? I may not be a very smart man, but the way I read your statement (in an apparent haste to separate from the other forms of midget racing), it implies that anyone withOUT a "Badger motor" would not be able to run...

[Ray3]

Originally Posted by jdull99 So...if they are "not the same thing" does that mean you are no longer welcoming the cars from the "Burlington and Spoon River" area??? I may not be a very smart man, but the way I read your statement (in an apparent haste to separate from the other forms of midget racing), it implies that anyone withOUT a "Badger motor" would not be able to run...

All engines that are legal in Badger are obviously welcome to compete. It is as simple as that and I would appreciate you trying not to make it more than that.

[Wayne Davis]

Originally Posted by Ray3 All engines that are legal in Badger are obviously welcome to compete. It is as simple as that and I would appreciate you trying not to make it more than that.

We understand Badger is not D-2 but POWRi says they are .... http://www.powri.com/downloads/get.aspx?i=424443 .... Badger and POWRi engines are not D-2 and are not allowed in the true D-2 series form... you might want to get this clarified .... http://www.powri.com/downloads/get.aspx?i=424447 ...

[Ray3]

Originally Posted by Wayne Davis We understand Badger is not D-2 but POWRi says they are .... http://www.powri.com/downloads/get.aspx?i=424443 .... Badger and POWRi engines are not D-2 and are not allowed in the true D-2 series form... you might want to get this clarified .... http://www.powri.com/downloads/get.aspx?i=424447 ...

Thank you Wayne! Coming from the guy who coined the term "D2 Midgets" I think this clears it up well. I appreciate it.