IndianaOpenWheel.com Sprint Car & Midget Racing Forum
Forgot Password?

Reply  Indiana Open Wheel > Indiana Open Wheel Forum > Cage Lights
Thread Tools
12/11/16, 12:17 AM   #51
kcarm92
kcarm92 is offline
Senior Member

Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,241
 

Never heard it first hand but after drivers voiced a little concern about them was told they will not be on while it's green flag racing will just come on as soon as a caution or red happens again just what i was told guess we will see at least give it a chance
 
5 members like this post: flagboy55, jim goerge, oppweld, PIT CART, treecitytornado
12/11/16, 1:14 AM   #52
Z-man
Z-man is offline
Senior Member

Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 879
 

Was this idea of the leader having a flashing light from a video game?
 
12/11/16, 2:03 AM   #53
TheRoadrunner
TheRoadrunner is offline
Member

Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 85
 

I think the lights will work if it is only used for yellow or red. In the case of the halos I don't think they will ever be mandatory because for some cars that's the only way out if it's on fire is through the roof. Some midgets and sprint cars there is absouloley no way for a medium sized guy to git out the window due to the huge armguards only 6in to the armguard to the starting of the side sun visor! If it comes down to being mandatory they will have to ban the Left side armguards and the side visors!
 
12/11/16, 12:00 PM   #54
illiNOISE
illiNOISE is offline
Senior Member

Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 889
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Old Coyote View Post
I like the idea of the first three cars being identified. We folks that attend regularly and know the cars can keep track well enough. But, I can tell you as I continually bring new people to the track to encourage growth of our sport, the one thing they all mention is the difficulty of following the race as the cars spread out. Another suggestion would to have the green light blinking on car in the last transfer position qualification races.
Particularly on the really tight bullrings (Macon, Belle Clair, Wayne City, etc.), the lapping process can start very quickly, especially in lower mains or LCQ races, where there can be a few sub par cars starting near the back. This is where these lights could really help.

Paired with the USAC leaderboard displaying both numbers and names, these lights could help keep things straight for fans and announcers, particularly when watching very similar looking team cars. Those little k's or x's behind the duplicate 67, 71, and 97 on the black Toyota Kunz cars can be hard to pick up at speed.
__________________
Even Roman Chariots ran non-wing, and on dirt. Hail Caesar!
 
12/11/16, 12:23 PM   #55
Re: Cage Lights
rpedersen20
rpedersen20 is offline
Member

Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 68
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by illiNOISE View Post
Particularly on the really tight bullrings (Macon, Belle Clair, Wayne City, etc.), the lapping process can start very quickly, especially in lower mains or LCQ races, where there can be a few sub par cars starting near the back. This is where these lights could really help.

Paired with the USAC leaderboard displaying both numbers and names, these lights could help keep things straight for fans and announcers, particularly when watching very similar looking team cars. Those little k's or x's behind the duplicate 67, 71, and 97 on the black Toyota Kunz cars can be hard to pick up at speed.
Not sure why racing organizations got on board with the participation trophy deal. The organizations are afraid to send people home resulting in large and stupid amount of cars in all races. If tracks and organizations started 18 cars in a feature instead of 20-24 or even larger at some places because of provisionals the benefits could be threefold. First the money usually going to those cars can go thru the field. Second less confusion for fans trying to find out who's winning, and lastly less cars for leaders to run into lapping sometimes multiple times a race. Hell during sprint week they had 12 cars heat races taking the top four. I think some places feel guys won't keep coming back if they can't get laps, but thank god we have PARAGON.
__________________
After many of his wins Stanbrough’s fans can be heard chanting “King of Indiana.” - quote from onedirt.com
 
12/11/16, 12:29 PM   #56
Re: Cage Lights
Jack Dupp
Jack Dupp is offline
Senior Member

Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 333
 

Here is the whole story. Argue at will.

usacracing.com:

A USAC initiative aimed at driver safety was introduced during the Performance Racing Industry Trade Show at the Indiana Convention Center Thursday.

The TraceSAFE system will launch in early 2017 and will be implemented in the three USAC National Championship Series: Silver Crown, AMSOIL National Sprint Cars and National Midgets.

USAC will supply the TracSAFE equipment to teams at each of the series’ national events throughout the 2017 season. USAC has led the development of this innovative new safety feature with support from Toyota Racing Development.

A light system on the dash and the back of the roll cage of each racecar will serve multiple functions. The innovative feature incudes an indicator on the dashboard that will light up yellow when the track goes under a yellow or red flag situation. The system is connected to USAC’s timing and scoring, which will allow for an instantaneous response from race control to the competitors on the track to alert each driver in the event of an on-track incident.

Furthermore, a series of three lights will be located on the back of the roll cage. During green flag periods, the lights will serve as “leader lights” to indicate to fans the running order position of the car on the track. If a driver is leading, one green light will be illuminated, two green lights for the second-place running car and three green lights for the third-place car.

As soon as timing and scoring goes under a yellow or red flag condition, the three lights on the back of the cage of all cars will immediately flash rapidly to alert drivers of a full-course yellow flag condition.


Additionally, scan code stickers will be placed on the back of each driver’s helmet to allow medical personnel quick and easy access to the driver’s detailed medical history.

With an objective of safety and decreasing the response time for communication from race control to the drivers, TracSAFE won overwhelming approval from attendees visiting the USAC display.
 
4 members like this post: cleatziff, Jbaldwin, jim goerge, jjones752
12/11/16, 2:31 PM   #57
Re: Cage Lights
PJ Wright
PJ Wright is offline
Senior Member

Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,886
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by rpedersen20 View Post
The organizations are afraid to send people home resulting in large and stupid amount of cars in all races. If tracks and organizations started 18 cars in a feature instead of 20-24 or even larger at some
So 18 cars is good but 20 is "large and stupid" ??? I couldn't disagree more. I'm guessing you're not a fan of The Little 500.
__________________
You laugh because I'm different. I laugh because you're all the same. Copied from the back of the #16 supermodified.
 
5 members like this post: Charles Nungester, interpreter66, jim goerge, speed bump, TQ97
12/11/16, 3:46 PM   #58
Re: Cage Lights
Backitin
Backitin is offline
Senior Member

Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 606
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rpracing1 View Post
If they save one life, wouldn't it be worth the problems?

Hopefully they work better than their infield big screen tv!
The above quote can be said for every invention anyone could come up with.
Eventually you have more problems then racing.
Racing is getting like the rest of the country is heading, if there are risk takers they are ruled out of it. The rest of the country is started young, they are teached to hide under your desk at school if there is even the possibility of a danger.
It just happened near us a art project was seen by a student who saw something they thought was a weapon. It looked nothing like a weapon but with one phone call the school was locked down hundreds of police were sent out. Of course most of the students were huddled under there desks, crying and texting loved ones to say goodbye. Its pathetic. Its what is taught in America, over react to every danger and god forbid never take care your own business, your own safety. A small light on your dash, fine. No real racer wants more crap on their car especially that crap.
I could never figure out the bleeding hearts who rant and rant over one racing death when the people dying in race cars are doing exactly what they want, while thousands die on our roads daily, men women and children.
 
12/11/16, 3:54 PM   #59
Re: Cage Lights
sp6967
sp6967 is offline
Senior Member

Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 893
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Backitin View Post
The above quote can be said for every invention anyone could come up with.
Eventually you have more problems then racing.
Racing is getting like the rest of the country is heading, if there are risk takers they are ruled out of it. The rest of the country is started young, they are teached to hide under your desk at school if there is even the possibility of a danger.
It just happened near us a art project was seen by a student who saw something they thought was a weapon. It looked nothing like a weapon but with one phone call the school was locked down hundreds of police were sent out. Of course most of the students were huddled under there desks, crying and texting loved ones to say goodbye. Its pathetic. Its what is taught in America, over react to every danger and god forbid never take care your own business, your own safety. A small light on your dash, fine. No real racer wants more crap on their car especially that crap.
I could never figure out the bleeding hearts who rant and rant over one racing death when the people dying in race cars are doing exactly what they want, while thousands die on our roads daily, men women and children.
its referred to as the snow flake generation.
__________________
"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help." President Ronald Reagan
 
12/11/16, 4:59 PM   #60
illiNOISE
illiNOISE is offline
Senior Member

Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 889
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Z-man View Post
Was this idea of the leader having a flashing light from a video game?
It's no different than the trend in the "ball" sports, where the real thing looks more and more like a video game. Just look at the virtual yellow first down line on NFL broadcasts. And it's not necessarily a bad thing, as it can assist the casual fan.
__________________
Even Roman Chariots ran non-wing, and on dirt. Hail Caesar!
 
Reply Indiana Open Wheel > Indiana Open Wheel Forum > Cage Lights





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:00 PM.


Make IndianaOpenWheel.com your homepage
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
© 2005-2024 IndianaOpenWheel.com
Mobile VersionLinks: Dave Merritt - Chris Pedersen - Carey Fox - Carey Akin - Joe Bennett - Brandon Murray - Dave Roach - John DaDalt - Racin; With D.O. - Jackslash Media