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7/15/14, 8:02 AM   #21
Re: Rain Out Procedures
PJ Wright
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Thank you Mud Packer! You explained it clearly and completely.... which means the thick headed whiners (and one aspiring arsonist) still won't have a clue.
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7/15/14, 8:14 AM   #22
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How many times have you seen a great race when there's a 40% or higher chance of rain 24 hours before the race? You want to lose out on those events? I know I don't!
Kokomo last Saturday night is a perfect example.
 
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7/15/14, 8:36 AM   #23
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I believe what tracks need to do is post their rainout policy clearly everywhere they can at the track or their website or their preferred social media site. It does not mean people won't complain because they will but, sometimes they have a legitimate complaints so, many times the track really doesn't have a policy they just go on a whim when it happens and don't really have a plan and that confuses people and then the next step they blow up. At least if people know what your policy is they can still blow up but, they will look stupid doing it.
 
7/15/14, 10:26 AM   #24
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LBurg Rules page
RAIN OUTS/CANCELLATIONS/UNCOMPLETED EVENTS:
Track officials may cancel a race if dangerous or unsafe conditions arise. If the race is called because of an accident or weather, the payoff will be based on the last completed green flag lap. All cars involved in the final caution will be scored at the end of the last completed lap. For the race to be considered official, at least 50% of the scheduled number of laps must have been completed.

If all of the preliminary races or part of the features have been completed and the weather forces the program to be cancelled, there will be no "rainout". Make-up features will be run in the subsequent nights, if possible, and no new cars will be added to the field. Also, if all of the preliminaries are completed on day on of a two-day show, no new cars will be able to compete on the second day in a consy or feature, unless they were in the pit area on the first day.

If the races are cancelled prior to the completion of all of the preliminary events, a "rain out" will be declared. Your tickets will be good for any race remainder of the year (excluding WOO events or Fun Fest) at face value. If an increased admission event occurs in one of the following weeks, you may use your rain check and pay the difference. No refunds will be given for the difference in the ticket prices in either case.

Exception: If feature event(s) is/are cancelled and the show has been considered a complete show, and no rain date will be utilized, the total feature purse may be split equally among the qualified drivers, if 50% or more of the feature has not been completed. Officials also reserves the right to choose a scenario that best fits the interest of Lawrenceburg Speedway, which may or may not include a make-up night or refunding of all gate receipts.

LPS Track Info page
Rain Out Policy
A ticket may be used at any time during the remainder of the season. It is recommended that a special event ticket be used for another special event. If special event rain out ticket is used for a regular event, there will be no cash refunds. Regular tickets can be upgraded for a special event.

Gas City Website N/A

Paragon
Rainout Policy
In the event of a sudden shower, the starter will halt the races. If the rain, in the opinion of the track officials, is sufficient to cancel the remainder of the contest, racing will not be resumed. If warm-ups and Heat races have been completed, rain checks will Not be honored. However, the missed events (Semi's or Features) will be run on a subsequent evening. In any case, always keep your ticket stub and await instructions from the track officials. There will be NO CASH REFUNDS!

Weather forecasters seem to love to predict rain, gloom and doom. Well... we just don't listen. We go ahead with our racing events whenever we can, regardless of predictions or actual conditions in the surrounding communities. Many fans call early in the afternoon after the weatherman threatens bad stuff. We never call an event early if it looks like rain or even if they predict bad weather. They seem to be wrong 99% of the time. Should we second guess Mother Nature and be wrong, we are sorry.
Please check our website or call the track phones for current weather related messages.

In some instances, events must be cancelled. Although the favored choice, for the safety of both participants and spectators, these decisions must be made. We hope you enjoy Paragon Speedway and become one of our valued fans.

Less than 6 events: Rain checks are used and will be honored for an upcoming event. Rain check will be valid for the amount you paid.

More than 6 events: Considered a complete show and rain checks will NOT be used. Rain out features will be run the next available week, before that evenings heat races.

Kokomo
The rain check policy is as follows: If the halfway point in the program (heat races) has been completed, rain checks will NOT be issued. If the halfway point has not been completed, rain checks will be honored at forthcoming regular programs. NO CASH REFUNDS. Rained-out features will be run the following week, before the evening’s heat races.

Terre Haute
N/A on Website but they have honored rainout wristbands for future shows. Personal Experience.

Bloomington
Rain Check Policy
In the event of severe or inclement weather the flagman will Red Flag the racing. If, in the opinion of the Speedway management and officials, the weather is sufficient enough to cancel the remainder of the racing program it will be called off because of weather. If the halfway point in the program has been completed (heat races and B-mains), rain checks will not be honored. If the halfway point in the program has not been completed, rain checks will be honored at any event at a dollar to dollar value.

Your ticket stub or armband is your rain check. Bloomington Speedway is not responsible for loss or theft of your rain check.

If you choose to use your rain check receipt at an event with a higher admission price you will have to pay the difference. There are NO REFUNDS.

Rained out feature events will be made up if possible and time permits.

Tri-State Faq page

What happens if a race is rained out or postponed?
ANSWER:

If tickets have been sold and we have not completed one half of the events (to be determined by the event itself), the ticket stubs will be honored if the race is rescheduled or at one of the next two scheduled races with the price adjusted if necessary. You must keep your ticket stub (rain check) to present for exchange at the ticket booth when you return. There are no cash refunds.

Eldora
Rain Check Policies – In the event of a complete rainout, a ticket holder has the option of receiving a refund or applying the value of their ticket towards another event. Refunds are issued in the same manner in which the purchase was made. Rain check policies may differ on events that were started prior to the rain cancellation. Please listen to Public Address announcements or refer to www.eldoraspeedway.com for detailed information regarding those situations. A rain check of a complimentary ticket (face value of $0.00) is not a valid rain check.


They're almost all identical and yet we still have the people who pitch a hissy, Say they've never had that happen to them etc.
There it is.
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7/15/14, 11:17 AM   #25
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I had no problem with call they made. There are a lot factors that the decision was based on. In fact I felt as bad for the track as I did anyone, because they were out money too. It rained. Something we can't control
 
7/15/14, 12:13 PM   #26
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Charles you must have a lot of extra time on your hands, lol. This has been very entertaining reading all of this. Comparing going to a race to gambling? Wow. I think the biggest thing people are upset about is Dave not using the rain date that was offered to him. Keep in mind, this is indiana sprint week, not some normal Saturday show. I think people would have understood if one of the first two tracks needed the rain date. But they didn't, a rain date was available, and it wasn't used.
 
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7/15/14, 3:06 PM   #27
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Eric Smith, Gas City is for sale. Figured you might want to buy it make millions and show everybody how it is done, but my guess is you won't. That would take guts. A lot more than I have.
 
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7/15/14, 4:09 PM   #28
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Eric Smith, Gas City is for sale. Figured you might want to buy it make millions and show everybody how it is done, but my guess is you won't. That would take guts. A lot more than I have.
Brent; He could make millions OR change the name of the track to "100% Satisfaction Guaranteed Or Your Money Cheerfully Refunded Speedway" and go down in history as the only promoter to have made everybody happy every time.
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7/15/14, 5:21 PM   #29
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I can remember driving to Eldora, several times, ( 4 hours one way) and it rained all the way from FT. Wayne to North Star. No rain at the track. Had the same thing happen the other way, no rain except at the track. We knew leaving the house what the chances were of rain.

Today, you can look at the radar on cell phones etc. we are better updated to make CHOICES. That is what it is, a choice, go or stay home.

GET OVER IT! I have was invoved with some promoting back in the 80's. If you cancel because it might rain, you are a idioit. Then you become known as the track that cancels if it looks like rain. If you try to race with shakey weather, you run the chance of low fan and low count. Its no win for the promoter!!! I was offered a chance to some again about 5 years ago. No way man.

So Eric, get the wallet out and do what as been suggested. Buy a track. Better yet, Mike will gladly let you lease I-96 and you can show us and him how it is done. And make sure it is a cloudy day with a 50% chance of rain!

Keep complaining and soon we will not have anything to complain about as far as race tracks go. (Baer Field etc.)
 
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7/15/14, 6:21 PM   #30
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I think it is outstanding for Lawrenceburg Speedway to honor my 2014 armband for the 2015 Indiana Sprint week show. I believe they are trying to take the high road to make right something that was out of their control. I think every track should be built across from casinos then disgruntled race fans can go gamble and lose real money to strangers who aren't remotely interested in taking the high road.
 
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