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Payout and strict enforcment of the rules. | 33 | 32.04% | |
An even distibution of payout (much less to winner) and stict enforcment of the rules. | 22 | 21.36% | |
Do not bring Racesaver sprints to Indiana. | 48 | 46.60% | |
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10/6/14, 2:11 PM |
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Josh Life isn't a movie, we don't have writers scripting our every move. Your job as a driver is to push it to your and yours car's limits, maybe just a tad more. Let them know that you are shooting for them but don't work so hard at it that it spoils your enjoyment of racing. Focus is a good thing but I have seen an awful lot of good drivers give up and throw in the towel because they couldn't achieve their goals. And I have seen a few drivers that would step down a division or two and race anyhow because they loved it, they always seemed to be the most happy and content. Honest Dad himself |
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10/6/14, 2:52 PM | #12 | ||
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This purse would mean an average of $315 per car if a full field is reached (which will surely be a stretch to start). The point of a "support division" is for car-affiliated income to out-weigh total payback. If the average car includes 4 people ($120 in pit passes), that leaves $195 to recoup by one gate or the other. Tough to do.
This has been proposed as a "support division" all along, meaning the purse would be small and covered entirely (and then some, hopefully, for the promoter) by those directly connected to the teams. Anything over $200 per car seems extremely unlikely. I will hold my opinion on this added class in Indiana. |
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10/6/14, 3:15 PM |
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10/6/14, 3:25 PM | #14 | ||
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An AVERAGE of $200 per car is more than what modifieds currently get & is probably on the high end for a support division.
If it is to be believed that some of these cars will come in the form of transitioned modified or sprint car racers, what is being gained? They will likely be paid more than a modified or a "B Main" sprint racer, so the track would be losing money on them. Remember, these cars are now the headliner at certain places (like Eagle, where they replaced a winged 360 class). And as the headliner, they are still only paid $315 per car on a feature purse. |
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10/6/14, 3:31 PM | #15 | |
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Im just posting from the perspective of being a driver or owner(Im neither) and saying what I think it would take, payout wise, for a person to want to start up a team to go racing in that class. As a driver it would be simple; does it pay enough and are there enough cars to run against. The math equations and all of that don't really do much for me, that seems more like a promoters business point of view, and all I can speak for is the drivers point of view, and I assumed that's what most people on here also try to do; speak for the drivers and try to make things change to benefit them and give owners incentive to field a car. I'm not going to talk down a potentially new class of race cars,just because I'm concerned that the racetrack may lose a little bit of money, they have their own group of people to make those decisions.
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10/6/14, 3:45 PM | #16 | ||
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And I have no stake in this at all, Im just surprised people would be against bringing another class of sprinters to run, I assumed everyone would be gung ho, mainly because we are on a message board called Indiana Open Wheel.
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10/6/14, 4:08 PM |
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Josh
Polls are deceptive, sometimes it is how the question is asked that cause responses to skew one way or the other. Sometimes one side is much more opinionated than the other. 305's should do well at Bloomington and with any luck a Saturday night track also. But expecting a purse larger than any other support track is not going to be in the cards. Why would Lawrenceburg run Mods with the sprint cars, the big reason is car count and fans in the stands. Those darned Mods are the 800 pound gorilla of support classes. Honest Dad himself |
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10/6/14, 4:09 PM |
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Payout from cotton bowl speedway Paige texas
http://www.cottonbowlspeedway.com/payout.pdf |
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10/6/14, 4:20 PM |
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Anyone who disagrees with payout discussed please give your opinion on what payout should be . We need to have dialogue to see where everyone stands.
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10/6/14, 4:25 PM |
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Would the purse be coming out of your pocket? If so you should be the one to call the shots. Pay whatever you feel comfortable with. Honest Dad himself |
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