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10/4/09, 10:01 AM |
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Maybe in all fairness to the race teams, if a series or track is going to draw for positions, they should use a system that includes passing points when lining up the semi feature and the main. Let's face it, drawing is luck, but qualifying is in a way depending on track conditions when it is a drivers time is to go out and qualify. Many times the track has gone away for the late qualifiers. I say passing points would be one solution.
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10/4/09, 10:01 AM |
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I respect the right of anyone to make either a business decision or a decision with their heart, which ever they feel is most appropriate for them. However, in my 50 years of being around racing, mostly as a fan, sometimes as a driver and car owner, I've never heard of this happening. I wouldn't doubt that it has, I just never heard of it. Personally I was appalled the first time a driver told me he wouldn't be running the following weekend because he was going on vacation. I thought the time to decide whether or not to run a race was decided at home before loading up and towing the car to the track, not after I found out where I would start in the heat races. Sure it's tough to come from the back especially with a good field of cars, but it's done all the time. I once bet against my favorite Gary Wright at the Devils Bowl because he was starting 18th in a good field of cars. He won anyway and in doing so put on one of the best driving performances I've ever seen. The Sprint Series of Texas, a Racesaver series has a rule where if you win the feature in the previous race, you must (if you make the main) start in the rear. I've never seen anyone refuse to do so. Of course the whole idea of the Racesaver series is for racers who love to race but can't afford the more expensive cars.
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10/4/09, 10:05 AM |
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I have NEVER in my 30 years of watching races seen teams pull out because of a starting draw..........Sad days indeed.................
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10/4/09, 10:11 AM |
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No guts. No class. No clue.
Maybe you could go race NAPCAR and have your spotter tell the guys in front of you to pull over. It's OK for other guys to start on the last row, but not you? I thought this was called RACING, not poor baby, didn't get a good draw, can't race and actually PASS anybody. Don't be even more disrespectful and tell me this was a business decision. You already paid for the gas to get there, already paid for the pit passes, already put some wear on the motor and tires. Car was already dirty. STUPID business decision. You invested what it took to get there, then eliminated any chance of ever getting THAT money back. Puhleeze. You didn't know you'd draw for the starting spots? Disrespectful to the fans. Disrespectful to the track. Disrespectful to the Sport. You dig yourself a deeper hole by coming on here and saying you're sorry, it was a "business"decision. It was a classless, clueless, chickensh*t, no guts decision. Admit that much and I'll have an ounce of respect for you. |
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10/4/09, 10:14 AM |
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1. First off. I came to watch a sprint car race with 24 car/driver combinations in the feature. I think we can all say this objective was achieved.
2. While I would have liked to see Bryan and Levi run last night there were still a great many other drivers I would gladly see race. I had a great time, saw a great race and absolutely got my moneys worth. 3. Even though I know it takes a lot of money to race sprint cars I'm sure if I took a look at the balance sheet it would probably still astound me. Tim Clauson does not need to apologize to me. I'm always going to be a fan. 4. Just my opinion but there needs to be something better than a pill draw with big events such as this. Maybe the USAC format of some sort of qualifying, qualifying races and four heats is the better way to go. 5. Sorry 5JMOFFATTFAN! There's no crying in short track racing, especially with Levi Jones and the Clauson family. |
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10/4/09, 10:30 AM | #16 | |
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Unfortunately with the format, I can see why you made that decision Tim. Not gonna lie, at first I found it quite silly. But after consideration I get it. Starting last (or 7th in a heat) with at least 3 awesome drivers starting in the first 2 rows (even if they weren't awesome the chances of passing up to 2nd on a spread out race track are slim). Then. Your chances of getting buried in a b main taking 4 are also high. And maybe if you're good enough to transfer you're so buried in a feature, again IF you transfer. Then you're in the back on a race track that isn't the
easiest to pass on. (not bashing the track don't even go there). Then you may get caught up in some wreck in the the back on the 2nd lap....but I digress. My point, if you look at the people putting the cars on the track starting last in a heat race that takes 2...isn't very good odds to get any return on your night. They aren't putting their cars out there for nothing, we all know it's a losing sport, but if you're at that big of a disadvantage when you walk in the door it makes it a little tougher. Yes I know someone has to start last but tim did what he felt he needed to do for his team, it's his right as the one putting the car on the track. My usual disclaimer: these opinions are mine, not jerry's or his teams or car owners, just sitting at Winchester putting in my $0.02 Posted via Mobile Device |
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10/4/09, 10:37 AM |
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Isn't half the cost just getting there? Run your heat and then see where you stand. Come on it's the end of the year, are these guys trying to set a trend and change the way it is being done format wise?
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10/4/09, 10:42 AM |
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So its ok for all of the guys that should start last rows in there respective heat races to load up and leave????????????????????
Everybody who showed up knew the format.........No Excuse......... |
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10/4/09, 10:47 AM |
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my thoughts exactly why would you spend money on pit passes and all the other stuff and load up and go home and not even run a heat?see what happens and where you in up in the heat then make the call to load up or not
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10/4/09, 11:03 AM |
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