MSCS @ The Burg Admission Price?

merice · 9/29/08, 10:39 PM

You funny Dave :respect:

fishnman · 9/29/08, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Rudisell

You and the Mrs. are probably there before the rooster awakes. If not save us a seat, I bet Fishnman will buy:O:

I seen The one and only FISHBURGER Sat. morn at Bob Evans. Was gonna offer to send the Maytag stove repairman over, but after the breakfast I enjoyed before heading to Tri-state i thought better of it, there is a very legitimate reason the stove has stayed broken. And as for buying, I spent to much this weekend at Gas city and Tri-state, and it was my weekend off.

As for section "A" I hope everyone enjoys a great show. But the rowdiness and lawlessness needs to be kept at a minimum, reminds me of the movie "Animal House".:O:

ChaplainJackie · 9/29/08, 11:17 PM

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cecil98 · 9/30/08, 7:41 AM

Cecil98 made so much money promoting Lawrenceburg he only did it a few years and retired to his multi-million dollar island home in Florida :rolling ......Dave R

Actually, Dave, I didn't retire. Here's my story. We were kind of victims of our own success. In 1979, Carroll Hamilton decided he had had enough of the promoting. At that time, I was the only person to make a serious offer on the business, thus, I bacame a promotor in the winter of 1979 (I was 26 years old then!!! Time flies!) In the first part 1980 we were averaging less than 1000 people on the grounds per week (including the pits), 17 sprint cars and 19 late models. By the end of the 1982, we were averaging around 1600 spectators (old grandstand held 1800) plus the pits, over 30 sprint cars and around 45 late models. We also added an amateur street stock class (at the behest of Terry Eaglin!) that drew around 20 cars per week. The business doubled in three seasons. At that time the fairboard (American Legion) controlled the property and would only allow one year leases. I asked for a multi-year lease each year so I could make improvements to the grounds but, each time I was denied. I soon found out why. Keep in mind that we were Buckeyes in a very parochial Hoosier area at the time. Well, as the business flourished, more people became interested in it. Mel Johnson was one of those people. To put it simply, the fairboard called me and told me "you are out and Mel is in". That was the end of my promoting career. I was very, very bitter about the way it was handled. You see, when I bought the place the fairboard allowed Carroll Hamilton to sell the "business" and the equipment, as a package. Once I came to terms with Carroll on the business, we then worked out the lease with the fairboard. The fairboard didn't grant me the opportunity to do that. They just said you no longer have a lease and to get the equipment off of the property by such and such date. Mel Johnson is a great guy and I've never held any animosity towards him. He saw a business opportunity and simply took what was available. I would've done the same thing. H$ll, I was even down there on Mel's opening night driving a sprint car and continued to support Mel until I gave it up circa 1990. As far as money? We lost money in 1980. We had to loan the corporation $6,000 to open the gates for 1981. In 1981, we came out a few thousand ahead at the end of the year. 1982 was a breakthrough year and we were finally being rewarded for our efforts. Car counts were high and crowds were excellent and consistant. I guess things happen for a reason, and as bitter as I was over losing the lease in the winter of 1982, as the 83' racing season approached, I realized the weight of the world had been lifted off of my shoulders! All we had to do was work on the race car and go racing. By opening night 1983 I was as happy as I've ever been.
That's the story of Cecil's promoting career! I don't envy you, Dave!!!!!

Charles Nungester · 9/30/08, 7:57 AM

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Originally Posted by fishnman

I seen The one and only FISHBURGER Sat. morn at Bob Evans. Was gonna offer to send the Maytag stove repairman over, but after the breakfast I enjoyed before heading to Tri-state i thought better of it, there is a very legitimate reason the stove has stayed broken. And as for buying, I spent to much this weekend at Gas city and Tri-state, and it was my weekend off.

As for section "A" I hope everyone enjoys a great show. But the rowdiness and lawlessness needs to be kept at a minimum, reminds me of the movie "Animal House".:O:

See, I tell people these guys are incoragable and nobody believes me.

Great bunch of guys but that sections just too wild! A for Animal House

9/30/08, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Watson

I can't make the trip to Lawrenceburg for this show......however i am willing to take anybody's wife to the movies that night! :wink

Tim, Could you make taking the wives to the movies an off season event,for those of us who like going to the track and the movies?:idea:

Tim Watson · 10/1/08, 7:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtfan

Dinner Tim?:O:

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Originally Posted by racefan20

Damn, and I was thinking of bringing the wife this week. Maybe it would be cheaper to pay Tim to take her to the movies:rolling I dont know maybe that would be safer than introducing her to that ladykiler Marv:wink

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Originally Posted by Mud Packer

Tim,

Where the hell were you 30 years ago when I was looking for someone to take over payments for my ex?:O:

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Originally Posted by corbin's mamaw

Tim, Could you make taking the wives to the movies an off season event,for those of us who like going to the track and the movies?:idea:

Dirtfan, i'm in on the dinner thing.
racefan20, go to the races and i will take the wife to the movies. Since we are the same height she won't even know the difference.
Mud Packer, 30 years ago i was only 15 so taking over those payments would have been tough but a good learning experience for me.
corbin's mamaw, i would rather take the wives to the movies during racing season so you guys can enjoy a night at the track. Also just in case any of the wives start to like me i would not want the husband's to be around. :angry-smiley-007:

ShaneMugavin57 · 10/1/08, 7:57 PM

I have one question. If Dave continues to take a beating and doesn't make money will the goverment step in with a bailout and a big golden umbrella for him?

cecil98 · 10/1/08, 8:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ShaneMugavin57

I have one question. If Dave continues to take a beating and doesn't make money will the goverment step in with a bailout and a big golden umbrella for him?

rather see'em bail out Dave, than these crooked Wall Street execs that belong in prison.

Dirtfan · 10/1/08, 8:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ShaneMugavin57

I have one question. If Dave continues to take a beating and doesn't make money will the goverment step in with a bailout and a big golden umbrella for him?

We can only hope Shane, Burg Saturday?

9/30/08, 7:41 AM	#54 Re: MSCS @ The Burg Admission Price?
cecil98 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,399	Cecil98 made so much money promoting Lawrenceburg he only did it a few years and retired to his multi-million dollar island home in Florida :rolling ......Dave R Actually, Dave, I didn't retire. Here's my story. We were kind of victims of our own success. In 1979, Carroll Hamilton decided he had had enough of the promoting. At that time, I was the only person to make a serious offer on the business, thus, I bacame a promotor in the winter of 1979 (I was 26 years old then!!! Time flies!) In the first part 1980 we were averaging less than 1000 people on the grounds per week (including the pits), 17 sprint cars and 19 late models. By the end of the 1982, we were averaging around 1600 spectators (old grandstand held 1800) plus the pits, over 30 sprint cars and around 45 late models. We also added an amateur street stock class (at the behest of Terry Eaglin!) that drew around 20 cars per week. The business doubled in three seasons. At that time the fairboard (American Legion) controlled the property and would only allow one year leases. I asked for a multi-year lease each year so I could make improvements to the grounds but, each time I was denied. I soon found out why. Keep in mind that we were Buckeyes in a very parochial Hoosier area at the time. Well, as the business flourished, more people became interested in it. Mel Johnson was one of those people. To put it simply, the fairboard called me and told me "you are out and Mel is in". That was the end of my promoting career. I was very, very bitter about the way it was handled. You see, when I bought the place the fairboard allowed Carroll Hamilton to sell the "business" and the equipment, as a package. Once I came to terms with Carroll on the business, we then worked out the lease with the fairboard. The fairboard didn't grant me the opportunity to do that. They just said you no longer have a lease and to get the equipment off of the property by such and such date. Mel Johnson is a great guy and I've never held any animosity towards him. He saw a business opportunity and simply took what was available. I would've done the same thing. H$ll, I was even down there on Mel's opening night driving a sprint car and continued to support Mel until I gave it up circa 1990. As far as money? We lost money in 1980. We had to loan the corporation $6,000 to open the gates for 1981. In 1981, we came out a few thousand ahead at the end of the year. 1982 was a breakthrough year and we were finally being rewarded for our efforts. Car counts were high and crowds were excellent and consistant. I guess things happen for a reason, and as bitter as I was over losing the lease in the winter of 1982, as the 83' racing season approached, I realized the weight of the world had been lifted off of my shoulders! All we had to do was work on the race car and go racing. By opening night 1983 I was as happy as I've ever been. That's the story of Cecil's promoting career! I don't envy you, Dave!!!!! _________________________________________________ Last edited by cecil98; 9/30/08 at 7:46 AM.

9/29/08, 10:39 PM	#51 Re: MSCS @ The Burg Admission Price?
merice Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 19	You funny Dave :respect:

9/29/08, 11:17 PM	#53 Re: MSCS @ The Burg Admission Price?
ChaplainJackie Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 245	Posted via Mobile Device

10/1/08, 7:57 PM	#58 Re: MSCS @ The Burg Admission Price?
ShaneMugavin57 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 251	I have one question. If Dave continues to take a beating and doesn't make money will the goverment step in with a bailout and a big golden umbrella for him?