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SprintFan
  #31 1/15/08 10:24 PM
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Pat O'Connor Fan (Offline)
  #32 1/16/08 12:11 AM
Originally Posted by SprintFan:
Kevin said that he doesn't think USAC needs to be doing co-santioned events in the midget division.
If he did say that, he proved that he doesn't know chit about dirt midgets here in the Midwest :kookoo2:
SHORTBUS (Offline)
  #33 1/16/08 12:40 AM
Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:
I too say get rid of the 32 lock in rule and run one heat per every ten cars.

It's not a marathon to me if theres good racing going on and everyone gets a real chance at the feature without one hard luck (Bad qualification) put them on the trailer 20 minutes after the event starts.

More racing in the top class is a good thing and Starters are for Tin Tops.
YES -- WHAT THEY SAID
Dirtfan (Offline)
  #34 1/16/08 8:23 AM
Originally Posted by SHORTBUS:
YES -- WHAT THEY SAID
What he said:thumb:

Dan Hetser


"Today is a Gift, Tomorrow is not Promised"
Dyno Don (Offline)
  #35 1/16/08 8:35 AM
Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:
I too say get rid of the 32 lock in rule and run one heat per every ten cars.

It's not a marathon to me if theres good racing going on and everyone gets a real chance at the feature without one hard luck (Bad qualification) put them on the trailer 20 minutes after the event starts.

More racing in the top class is a good thing and Starters are for Tin Tops.
I agree,drop the last chance races and run more heats.

Those last chance races are a farce anyway. Starting straight up pretty much insures the first 2 cars finish that way and in the mean time, some guy in the back that has'nt got a chance to win flips.
ossuks (Offline)
  #36 1/16/08 9:32 AM
There is a reason USAC races are the best. One is the racing format. A 32 car program trims the show down to the best racers. When you start a heat and the front row is .2 sec. slower you have to get your elbows up and race.

Never water down a good whiskey!

There are several clubs that allow all that can buy a pitpass to race, if thats your thing then great for you. You can attend a POWERI, HOSS, AMAS, ect.. race and see good shows. When I go to a USAC show I'm there to see the "best of the best".
Charles Nungester (Offline)
  #37 1/16/08 10:01 AM
Originally Posted by ossuks:
There is a reason USAC races are the best. One is the racing format. A 32 car program trims the show down to the best racers. When you start a heat and the front row is .2 sec. slower you have to get your elbows up and race.

Never water down a good whiskey!

There are several clubs that allow all that can buy a pitpass to race, if thats your thing then great for you. You can attend a POWERI, HOSS, AMAS, ect.. race and see good shows. When I go to a USAC show I'm there to see the "best of the best".

Well Gee, Im there to see the local guy Kick their arse. I suppose thats why only 5 local guys ran the USAC show? Pop goes to a USAC race and KNows nobody else but the locals and then tells me I should have stayed home, The regular show is better with 7 heats, two B's and a feature.


Sorry but if the Posse didn't run against the WOO they wouldn't be in PA.

I can see your point but realize about one third of the crowd is a Homer. IMHO the USAC midget show at Gas City was twice as good because a local won. That and the fact that in my view Midget week, With everyone running at least two races Kicked the crap out of Sprintweek which was good.

I GO TO SEE BOTH, Great racers and Great RACES.

We've got a lot of locals the probably can't qualify good one because they don't do it much. Two they don't have the 40g Motor and three can't afford to strap a new 200 dollar tire on every race, but come race time they are moving forward. One LCQ is not fair for the exact reasons Dyno Don gave, Not many laps, Started straight up. Why even go out there if your further back than tenth, You only got six laps to make the top two.

Chuck, Who sees Broc Burton, Derrek Franks, Knoke (Retired), Link and many others come from way deep in a field to crack the top five all the time at a regular show, You don't see that at a USAC race because their on the trailor before the heats.

Charles Nungester
darlandfan (Offline)
  #38 1/16/08 10:32 AM
Run a passing points Sprint Bandit format. Do away with qualifing. Go out first on a track that still greasy and what do you get, screwed for the night. I agree about the red flags. I dont think most need to happen. If there isnt several cars involved and clean up isnt going to take long, dont stop. They have enough trouble lining back up anyway. Get rid of open reds. I want to see which crew chief guessed right on how the track was going to change. His job is to set up that car to win, if not go home and find a new job. If USAC is the best of the best, that should go for crew chiefs to. Just little things that I think help make a show take a little longer than it should.
Kirk Spridgeon (Offline)
  #39 1/16/08 11:00 AM
I would change the top 32 to top 40, but that's it. If you can't crack that number, run a C Main. Some of the worst sets of heat races I've seen have been the ones with a bunch of cars at a local show. Lawrenceburg has been the worst at times....nothing wrong with the track but those seven or eight heat formats just don't work.

What's wrong with seeing 8-10 GOOD guys racing for four transfer spots? What puts USAC so far ahead in terms of quality racing program is that they don't water any race down. It's not supposed to be easy. You have to be on your game.

And the gripe about qualifying? I remember when Kevin Besecker turned in like three top-ten qualifying efforts during Sprintweek one year. Did he have great equipment? And that was during a Sprintweek that featured 55-60 car fields every night.

Last year's fields were down. That was due to a lot of things. But honestly, I didn't even notice it after qualifying and the last chance race were over....
smbpreformance (Offline)
  #40 1/16/08 1:06 PM
I think I could live with 40 locked in to heats with 32 inverted but if they took 4 out of each C to the heats (two to each heat) that would give 48 a chance at heats and not just 36
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