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Rpracing1 (Offline)
  #11 2/23/09 12:22 AM
All depends on when the last time you bought the flagman a nice dinner and a beer.
dant (Offline)
  #12 2/23/09 1:35 AM
Originally Posted by 1BIGracefan:
I was at the Drivers meeting on Saturday nite. It was stated when a red flag came out you are to proceed to the front stretch if possible. This is what said driver did when the crash happened behind him.

Kyle
Thank you ,I wasn't at the pit meeting but I've raced manzi and know as a general rule ,:applaud:it's as you stated....I know things look different from the grandstand but I believe most drivers would have done as this driver did and felt he was doing the right thing....
safetyworker (Offline)
  #13 2/25/09 11:17 AM
Let me please make a comment or two from the safety team's perspective.
1. Stopping ASAP as safely as possible makes our job of getting to the scene much
quicker.
2. When you do stop, pay attention...stopping next to another car can make it tough
to get a safety vehicle through to the crash scene. I have already had to stop
and back up because a racer swerved at the last second, filling an opening.
3. When the red comes out, rest assured...SAFETY VEHICLES ARE MOVING...PLEASE
GIVE THEM ROOM! YOU WOULD WANT THAT IF THEY ARE COMING TO HELP YOU!

Remember, at the end of the night, everyone goes home standing up.

Keith
dant (Offline)
  #14 2/25/09 5:13 PM
Originally Posted by safetyworker:
Let me please make a comment or two from the safety team's perspective.
1. Stopping ASAP as safely as possible makes our job of getting to the scene much
quicker.
2. When you do stop, pay attention...stopping next to another car can make it tough
to get a safety vehicle through to the crash scene. I have already had to stop
and back up because a racer swerved at the last second, filling an opening.
3. When the red comes out, rest assured...SAFETY VEHICLES ARE MOVING...PLEASE
GIVE THEM ROOM! YOU WOULD WANT THAT IF THEY ARE COMING TO HELP YOU!

Remember, at the end of the night, everyone goes home standing up.

Keith
keith let me make a suggestion...at the next drivers meeting when the pit steward tells the drivers to go to say the front straight away under a red ,if they can safely do so ,without passing the wreck...have him instruct the drivers to park high and leave a lane for emergency equip to pass.......one car flips on the first lap,you won't get 20-21 cars lined up nose to tail nobody side by side on the straight away...but my way you could have a lower lane avalible...not one driver wishes to impeed the safety teams but remember we don't have rear view mirrors and once our cars are out of gear we're going to stop when the momentum ends
ShaneMugavin57 (Offline)
  #15 2/25/09 5:41 PM
Originally Posted by dant:
keith let me make a suggestion...at the next drivers meeting when the pit steward tells the drivers to go to say the front straight away under a red ,if they can safely do so ,without passing the wreck...have him instruct the drivers to park high and leave a lane for emergency equip to pass.......one car flips on the first lap,you won't get 20-21 cars lined up nose to tail nobody side by side on the straight away...but my way you could have a lower lane avalible...not one driver wishes to impeed the safety teams but remember we don't have rear view mirrors and once our cars are out of gear we're going to stop when the momentum ends

Good suggestion but if the pits are on the inside they should pull to the inside so you don't have crews crossing thru your safety lane. Again this should probably be on a track by track basis.
Rpracing1 (Offline)
  #16 2/25/09 6:15 PM
I think you guys are making this too difficult. This needs to be a universal rule, you stop as soon as the red comes out, where you are, away from the cause of the red.
Joe Kidd
  #17 2/25/09 6:34 PM
Bunch of crybabies.
dant (Offline)
  #18 2/25/09 6:42 PM
Originally Posted by ShaneMugavin57:
Good suggestion but if the pits are on the inside they should pull to the inside so you don't have crews crossing thru your safety lane. Again this should probably be on a track by track basis.
Where I race ,nobody is allowed on the track during the red until the pit stewerd blows a horn..he doesn't blow that horn till the safety crews get to the wreck and stabilize the situation...anyone goes on the track before ..cars disqualified.....in addition nobody goes to a car till all the cars are brought to the designated 'under Red' area..so theres no advantage to driving unsafely to the designated area..nobody touchs a car till there all there
thebus79h (Offline)
  #19 2/26/09 4:58 AM
Problem with the rule of stopping immediately is there are to many people that take that literally and jump all over the brakes. I've junked a car due to someone in front grabbing a ton of brake in front of the field.

If the red is in front of you, don't pass it if you can avoid it, but I'd rather only see one car upsidown, than that one car upsidown plus 2 or 3 more from people climbing over each other. Remember, we don't have brake lights.
onthegas7j (Offline)
  #20 2/26/09 8:52 AM
good point, ive done some major damage when people jumped all over the brakes... simple let out and make sure everyone is straight and checked up and stop as quickly BUT SAFELY as possible
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