[pjohnson]

18 to 32 man i got to fight that rule now lol

[DAD]

Originally Posted by pjohnson Lol 4th childhood heck yeah thats how i plan to outlive my grankids lol. Im 50 and for the most part dont feel old in any way. I can make young kids puff in the fire dept and can still stay up with most. See the key is your mind think young lol. I have went through two bad fights with cancer and beat the heck out of it now im goiung through a 12 hour recontruction surgery that will involve a neck trach and feeding tube in March that would make most young guys run. I will be starting my 5th childhood in may i hope. Yes the Doctors think im crazy but they love it. Im not growing older just better and wiser. lol o ya forgot i do it all with just one arm cancer took the other one but i never gave up anything and i never give up. Just got one really strong arm

That is quite odd >>That is exactly how I felt at "FIFTY" Allen Ruppenthal raced well into his 60's and gave them punk kids hell!!

Honest Dad himself

[DAD]

Originally Posted by suzuki756 wow. No engler injection I only know one person that has that system looks like picking on one person to me. that system is no faster than any other mechanical injection. 25 lbs different for gas to alky crazy that's great if you have 100lb driver. glad I sold my mini stuff had to get out while stuff still worth something. to many track favorites with different rules for them.

IM still working on that weight thing!!!!!

Honest Dad himself

[pjohnson]

Ok i need someone who knows to clarify a rules question. Looking at AMSA's website it says 2013 rules under engine it appears to be the old rule other than no new ZX12 engines. So my question is there the AMSA/Waynesfield rules then the old rules for the other 4 Amsa races? i'm confused

[jjones752]

Originally Posted by pjohnson Ok i need someone who knows to clarify a rules question. Looking at AMSA's website it says 2013 rules under engine it appears to be the old rule other than no new ZX12 engines. So my question is there the AMSA/Waynesfield rules then the old rules for the other 4 Amsa races? i'm confused

That, Mr. Johnson, is precisiely why I got involved in this thread in the first place; if the 1000cc, no mechanical injection rules are Waynesfield ONLY, and AMSA is planning some non-wing shows elsewhere using the rules as stated on their website, then have at it. I was looking for clarification of that one point. What is the plan for the AMSA for the dates now listed as TBA?
This is not a slam, or a complaint, or whining; just a question about seemingly conflicting information.
Been a fun read, though...

[DAD]

Originally Posted by pjohnson Ok i need someone who knows to clarify a rules question. Looking at AMSA's website it says 2013 rules under engine it appears to be the old rule other than no new ZX12 engines. So my question is there the AMSA/Waynesfield rules then the old rules for the other 4 Amsa races? i'm confused

My Guess? TBA races will be at Logansport Indiana with old AMSA rules. But in the end Jerry calls the shots for AMSA.

Honest Dad himself

[cwhipple]

It is my understanding AMSA is going to adopt the 1000cc rule period. That being said, i think this is a typo in the rules:

Motor
The motor must be a 4-cycle motorcycle engine with 1205cc maximum, and must be self-starting by the driver while seated. Cars can only be pushed to start in case of mechanical failure with approval by Jerry Tague for that event. It must be corrected by the next event.

Jerry will need to advise.

[Bradleyracing86]

Tim is literally the nicest guy I know, true success story, and a Indiana based business. He makes a great product and has excellent customer service... Everyone here is scared of what they don't know. The system is an old technology, made with durable components that will last for years..
My question is.... Lets say I just bought a complete Rosson for my 2006 gsxr, r1, Honda, zx10 whatever... In 2 years I decide I want a 2008 version... Motors get hard to find and manafactures make a new version on a new platform every two years. So people with gsxrs will your 06 alky injection work with the 08 engine how bout that $300 power comander, harness or the $400 injectors.

In two years you bought a 2010 will it work with any of that stuff.. Nope so in 6 years your buying 3 systems and at least 6 fuel pumps that are pushing alky and not made for it ..

One mechanical system can be used on any year of bike engine and on any type of engine.. If you have a r1 and you go to Suzuki no big deal. Simple adapters can make the change to anything you want.. The injection stops when the motor stops which is key for safety and there is (6) wires req to run the system.. No more buying harnesses to be cut down .. If you blow an engine you can buy a bare engine for hundreds less than a car kit.. It absolutely cost less than efi in the long run.. These rules are bs, in the since you are penalizing the guy who shows the goods on the outside of the motor, and making rules for guys who spend thousands on the inside... Add weight to mechanical injected cars, don't penalize them because a Foz with a 06 suzuki and a good driver made you look like you were tied to a concrete truck...

Make them weigh 1000... Banning just hurts an already bad car count...

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[Bradleyracing86]

Originally Posted by DAD IM still working on that weight thing!!!!! Honest Dad himself

Scotty is down to 150 and needs a ride in ocala !

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[jjones752]

Originally Posted by cwhipple It is my understanding AMSA is going to adopt the 1000cc rule period. That being said, i think this is a typo in the rules: Motor The motor must be a 4-cycle motorcycle engine with 1205cc maximum, and must be self-starting by the driver while seated. Cars can only be pushed to start in case of mechanical failure with approval by Jerry Tague for that event. It must be corrected by the next event. Jerry will need to advise.

That's a pretty big typo given all the discussion that had gone on before the 2013 rules were posted on the AMSA site; my hope is that's not the case and that Dad's educated guess is right. Love to give Logansport a shot.