[Go Fast]

Leaders Edge has often stated that the cool thing about a 100 mile Silvercrown race is that you don't luck into a win. It takes preparation, planning, patience and execution to be successful. Making the races into twin 50's takes a lot of that out of the equation.

While the safety concerns brought up are valid, a driver can get burnt by 1 gallon of fuel just as easily as 75 gallons. 75 gallons just takes a hell of a lot more water to dilute and extinguish.

Leave the cars alone. If you want butts in the seats... Promote.

[RR>LR=LTO]

Put 410's in them with injection restrictors and 33 gallon fuel cells. Take the damn clutch off of them and make them run 50 laps at a time. They are too much different than sprint cars. That fact makes them far more expensive to build and the clutch and makes them problematic. Leave the frames alone(larger) and increase the performance. The fans need to watch a race. A fast paced RACE, not slugs. The "champ" car has been a legacy rather than a "Premier" stage to put on a show. I want to see elbows up racing with tire management and distance. That can be achieved but the "rules" need altered to make it more interesting. With these changes a regular guy can afford to field a car, rather than the 12 race a year owners. Car counts go up when part availability goes up. Arguments? Cheers? What do you think?

[GregD]

Why do we need a "big" sprint car. Not everyone can enjoy a Silver Crown race the they are today, but that OK. That's why we have midgets, sprints and silver crowns, something for everybody.

A three page USAC bash over a rumor.

God you people crack me up.

[LEADERS EDGE]

Originally Posted by RR>LR=LTO Put 410's in them with injection restrictors and 33 gallon fuel cells. Take the damn clutch off of them and make them run 50 laps at a time. They are too much different than sprint cars. That fact makes them far more expensive to build and the clutch and makes them problematic. Leave the frames alone(larger) and increase the performance. The fans need to watch a race. A fast paced RACE, not slugs. The "champ" car has been a legacy rather than a "Premier" stage to put on a show. I want to see elbows up racing with tire management and distance. That can be achieved but the "rules" need altered to make it more interesting. With these changes a regular guy can afford to field a car, rather than the 12 race a year owners. Car counts go up when part availability goes up. Arguments? Cheers? What do you think?

Wasn't that basically the idea behind the 100" cars in Oklahoma area? I really don't know too much about them though.

There are cars already out there and people already have the parts, it's that they were given a reason to quit racing them and now with the costs of everything on the rise it's hard to get them to come back out. Lot of hurt feelings as well.

The teams that have a problem with the clutch systems are ones that either don't or mismaintain them or they are too small for the application. Honestly though, I don't know of many teams that have clutch problems these days. Not saying it doesn't happen, but very few problems really.

The champ cars appear slow because of the size, but I don't know many drivers that at the end of the straightaway are thinking they are not running fast enough(At least those without a problem) I think the races are already elbows up. There is no coasting, even though it may look that way.

Using the formula you suggest, why not just restrict a sprint cars engine and use it?(Car and Engine)

Sorry, but just because a person makes a modest income(me included) that doesn't mean that a series should be designed around them(that is why I no longer have owners interest in one). Those cars and that series are not for everyone and that is why it draws the crowds that it does. You cannot go to Gas City,Bloomington,Jacksonville, Canton etc. etc to watch them race. I would personally hate to think that every 1/4 or 3/8ths track had a Silver Crown Race. There isn't too much special about that.

There is only one series like them and they are basically USAC'S only series that has not been or cannot be copied. That is why it is special. I do wish we could get some of the WoO guys and West Coast guys to run more of the races. I really enjoy when you see a group of guys running together that normally don't.(Ex.When guys like McSpadden,Shuman,Stewart,Irwin,Hewitt,Blaney etc..etc.. ran. I think it would be great to see someone like Danny Smith in Ricky Nixs' car now that Parsons has hung it up)

That said, one reason the car counts are down is because the payouts have not caught up to competitors cash outlay to run one. Most teams know they are going to lose some money, but $425 or whatever it is to start just isn't enough. That wouldn't change if you had a 410 or not. I think that when the economy calms down and energy prices stabilize enough for people to catch their breath, It will come back. It's always kinda of ebb and flowed since the split of the dirt and pavement championship trails.

Honestly; it's been screwed with once recently and right now it's a little shakey, but the crowds are fair. If it is made to be too confusing, I believe it will lose what is left of it's identity and it's core crowd.

[GregD]

Mike, it's not a three page USAC bash, it's three pages of people giving their opinions. Open wheel fans are passionate about the sport and when we lose that passion the sport will be D.O.A.

[usac1957]

This is not a rumor, but was brought up in the drivers meeting

[sprntr]

Over this past weekend I spoke with a couple of people associated with a couple of different SC teams. Both of them expressed the opinion that this proposal is in reaction to complaints about tire wear by some the the "Elite" teams whose "development drivers" haven't learned enough throttle control to make their tires last 100 miles.

So they want USAC to FIX THE PROBLEM!

These "Elitists" are closely related to those wonderful people who talked USAC into FIXING the Pavement SC cars.

It's all about gaining an advantage to make THEIR drivers look better, thus generating more income from Mother NASCAR.

Time to do what's right for THE SILVER CROWN SERIES and STOP CATERING TO NASCAR!!

[Kirk Spridgeon]

What development drivers are running Silver Crown cars now? There really aren't many young guys, and the ones that are certainly aren't worried about changing rules or anything.

I think the rules are great the way they are. I think the biggest reason for this change is because of the dominant performances of Brian Tyler on the miles this season. I'd heard that Sargent wanted to find a way to tighten up the races....and I understand what he's saying....but I adamantly vote against it!!

[sprntr]

Originally Posted by Kirk Spridgeon What development drivers are running Silver Crown cars now? There really aren't many young guys, and the ones that are certainly aren't worried about changing rules or anything. I think the rules are great the way they are. I think the biggest reason for this change is because of the dominant performances of Brian Tyler on the miles this season. I'd heard that Sargent wanted to find a way to tighten up the races....and I understand what he's saying....but I adamantly vote against it!!

Not drivers wanting changes - team owners.

Dominant? He won two races & Darland was catching him at DuQuoin.

Anyway, I hope they don't change anything and tick-off any more car owners.