some changes need to be made isw

riskybrisky5 · 7/17/08, 12:39 PM

IMHO USAC's format plays in a bigger favor to the little teams than any other organization that qualifies. All other qualifying series either invert 4 or 6 in the heats meaning you have to qualify at worst top 24 to make the cut. With USAC you can qualify 32cnd quick and start in the front of a heat race. To me that is missing it and still getting rewarded. I like the format and just wish they would start 12 in each heat. Everyone that runs enough with USAC will be on all ends of the spectrum. From qualifiying in the top 6 and racing your but off to transfer in the heat just hoping you do not have to run the B because you know the talent in that race it may be tough to even run the top 6. Or qualifying 24th to 32cnd thinking you have a great chance to make the show but have to start in the back of feature. Or one of the worst scenerio's qualifying 9th through 16th starting 3rd row knowing you have to pass good guys to get in and the fast qualifiers breathing down your kneck then if you dont transfer in the heat your starting mid pack of B with darn good cars and drivers in front of you and have to run top 6. Then the worst missing the top 32 and racing your butt off all night long. To me this sounds like a awsome format for the fans. Some nights the racers has a great night and other nights things just do not go your way. But to me this format for qualifying is as tough as it gets. But I still say the fairest form for racing is the Sprint Bandit format. USAC's format beats the blind draw to pieces.

767 · 7/17/08, 1:42 PM

can u explain the sprint bandit format?

Dwayne · 7/17/08, 1:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 767

can u explain the sprint bandit format?

http://www.ascsracing.com/ascsrules.asp

Seadog · 7/17/08, 1:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwayne

http://www.ascsracing.com/ascsrules.asp

I like engine rule #8 - "No turban driven..." A turban is a type of head dress worn in certain cultures. I think they should probably change it to "turbine".

Pat O'Connor Fan · 7/17/08, 2:51 PM

I seem to recall getting a fax that said turbans are legal now, if they have the proper hook-ups for the HANS device.

Seadog · 7/17/08, 2:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat O'Connor Fan

I seem to recall getting a fax that said turbans are legal now, if they have the proper hook-ups for the HANS device.

:rolling:rolling:rolling

illiNOISE · 7/20/08, 5:34 PM

Are the turbans flame retardant?:O:

Roger Hughes · 7/20/08, 8:05 PM

I say take DO's format and make one small change, dump USAC. ISW was started by some Indiana dirt tracks. It's a shame that the drivers who compete every week on those ISW tracks can't afford to run all the ISW shows.

I talked to several drivers in the last week about this very thing. I was told that with a USAC license or TP, plus $35 pit passes with entry is runs about $300-$400 just to race, plus you have to have a HANS.

I have been a USAC fan since the first time I went to the Hut 100 in 1960. I have been to hundreds of USAC shows, promoted USAC shows and even broadcasted USAC events around the country.

I just think that Indiana Sprint Week should be an Indiana Sprint Week not USAC Sprint Week in Indiana.

Take the ten or so tracks that want a ISW date and agree not to run sprint cars on those dates. The tracks that run sprint cars everyweek choose the weekend dates first with the remaining dates picked out of a hat.

Take DO's format with a USAC type payout. Fans complain about support classes, well how about non wing sprint cars as a support class. I am saying pay $5000 to win to the top 24 in the first feature, $1000 to win in the next feature for the next 24 and $500 to win for the remainder of cars. Everyone runs a feature. Charge a $25 entry to each race and pay it all out plus any sponsor money to the point fund.

Charge $25 admission with an advanced reserved seat sale "super ticket" for $200 good for all ten events. Indiana Sprint Weeks offers some great promotional opportuinties for some Indiana companies.

Lets get our guys who keep the local tracks in business running the big events too. The local racers and fans they bring keep the tracks in business. ISW helps keep USAC in business. If you need USAC's magic wand for the event, then let them put their name on it like they do the "Little 500' that was also around long before USAC got involved.

Track owners do not need USAC to bring a dozen officials or to tell them when to water or to rework the track.

It is a shame that the guys who race everyweek on the same ISW dirt tracks like can't even race on what is the biggest race of the year at most of the tracks.

There are lots of suggestions on how to change the ISW format posted. Well Jerry Coons Jr. said on DO's show last Monday that when the standard USAC format is changed it can have an effect on the USAC National Championship. He's right

I am a huge fan of Dave Darland but last year Jon Stanbrough lost the ISW title to Dave because Dave got the USAC provisional and Jon did not.

Let's go racing and put the USAC fee's in the drivers pockets.

Just my thoughts.

Roger Hughes

Kirk Spridgeon · 7/21/08, 12:25 AM

Honestly, Sprintweek was nothing until USAC came on board in 1997. It was a great idea then and it is still a brilliant idea now...

If you want to see the best guys out there racing, Sprintweek is the place to do it. And quite honestly, I'm tired of hearing excuses from people when it comes to the USAC Indiana Sprintweek shows....the guys who showed up all week don't deserve to be disrespected - they were the cream of the crop and proved again that they're the best sprint car racers in the country. And those are the guys that fans flock to see...

Rex W. · 7/21/08, 1:24 AM

I remember sprintweeks being prety good back when USAC had nothing to do with it. Like back in the early 90's when guys like Hewitt in Murphys car & Terry Shepherd in the NIPS car would show up at some of the races.

7/17/08, 12:39 PM	#71 Re: some changes need to be made isw
riskybrisky5 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 284	IMHO USAC's format plays in a bigger favor to the little teams than any other organization that qualifies. All other qualifying series either invert 4 or 6 in the heats meaning you have to qualify at worst top 24 to make the cut. With USAC you can qualify 32cnd quick and start in the front of a heat race. To me that is missing it and still getting rewarded. I like the format and just wish they would start 12 in each heat. Everyone that runs enough with USAC will be on all ends of the spectrum. From qualifiying in the top 6 and racing your but off to transfer in the heat just hoping you do not have to run the B because you know the talent in that race it may be tough to even run the top 6. Or qualifying 24th to 32cnd thinking you have a great chance to make the show but have to start in the back of feature. Or one of the worst scenerio's qualifying 9th through 16th starting 3rd row knowing you have to pass good guys to get in and the fast qualifiers breathing down your kneck then if you dont transfer in the heat your starting mid pack of B with darn good cars and drivers in front of you and have to run top 6. Then the worst missing the top 32 and racing your butt off all night long. To me this sounds like a awsome format for the fans. Some nights the racers has a great night and other nights things just do not go your way. But to me this format for qualifying is as tough as it gets. But I still say the fairest form for racing is the Sprint Bandit format. USAC's format beats the blind draw to pieces.

7/17/08, 1:42 PM	#72 Re: some changes need to be made isw
767 Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,119	can u explain the sprint bandit format?

7/17/08, 2:51 PM	#75 Re: some changes need to be made isw
Pat O'Connor Fan Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 8,029	I seem to recall getting a fax that said turbans are legal now, if they have the proper hook-ups for the HANS device.

7/20/08, 5:34 PM	#77 Re: some changes need to be made isw
illiNOISE Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 890	Are the turbans flame retardant?:O:

7/20/08, 8:05 PM	#78 Re: some changes need to be made isw
Roger Hughes Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 26	I say take DO's format and make one small change, dump USAC. ISW was started by some Indiana dirt tracks. It's a shame that the drivers who compete every week on those ISW tracks can't afford to run all the ISW shows. I talked to several drivers in the last week about this very thing. I was told that with a USAC license or TP, plus $35 pit passes with entry is runs about $300-$400 just to race, plus you have to have a HANS. I have been a USAC fan since the first time I went to the Hut 100 in 1960. I have been to hundreds of USAC shows, promoted USAC shows and even broadcasted USAC events around the country. I just think that Indiana Sprint Week should be an Indiana Sprint Week not USAC Sprint Week in Indiana. Take the ten or so tracks that want a ISW date and agree not to run sprint cars on those dates. The tracks that run sprint cars everyweek choose the weekend dates first with the remaining dates picked out of a hat. Take DO's format with a USAC type payout. Fans complain about support classes, well how about non wing sprint cars as a support class. I am saying pay $5000 to win to the top 24 in the first feature, $1000 to win in the next feature for the next 24 and $500 to win for the remainder of cars. Everyone runs a feature. Charge a $25 entry to each race and pay it all out plus any sponsor money to the point fund. Charge $25 admission with an advanced reserved seat sale "super ticket" for $200 good for all ten events. Indiana Sprint Weeks offers some great promotional opportuinties for some Indiana companies. Lets get our guys who keep the local tracks in business running the big events too. The local racers and fans they bring keep the tracks in business. ISW helps keep USAC in business. If you need USAC's magic wand for the event, then let them put their name on it like they do the "Little 500' that was also around long before USAC got involved. Track owners do not need USAC to bring a dozen officials or to tell them when to water or to rework the track. It is a shame that the guys who race everyweek on the same ISW dirt tracks like can't even race on what is the biggest race of the year at most of the tracks. There are lots of suggestions on how to change the ISW format posted. Well Jerry Coons Jr. said on DO's show last Monday that when the standard USAC format is changed it can have an effect on the USAC National Championship. He's right I am a huge fan of Dave Darland but last year Jon Stanbrough lost the ISW title to Dave because Dave got the USAC provisional and Jon did not. Let's go racing and put the USAC fee's in the drivers pockets. Just my thoughts. Roger Hughes

7/21/08, 12:25 AM	#79 Re: some changes need to be made isw
Kirk Spridgeon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 802	Honestly, Sprintweek was nothing until USAC came on board in 1997. It was a great idea then and it is still a brilliant idea now... If you want to see the best guys out there racing, Sprintweek is the place to do it. And quite honestly, I'm tired of hearing excuses from people when it comes to the USAC Indiana Sprintweek shows....the guys who showed up all week don't deserve to be disrespected - they were the cream of the crop and proved again that they're the best sprint car racers in the country. And those are the guys that fans flock to see...

7/21/08, 1:24 AM	#80 Re: some changes need to be made isw
Rex W. Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 295	I remember sprintweeks being prety good back when USAC had nothing to do with it. Like back in the early 90's when guys like Hewitt in Murphys car & Terry Shepherd in the NIPS car would show up at some of the races.