Episode 8

RetiredShoe · 4/30/14, 6:27 PM

This one is one you don't want to miss. We got some info about Tim Kaeding's exit from the 83 and unlike everyone else, we talked about it. I get pretty fired up in this one and I think it's an important show. Hope you like it.

http://www.wfopenwheel.com/2014/04/3...tom-headaches/

RGraves · 4/30/14, 8:21 PM

Nice way to try and get some listeners. You didn't talk about anything that everybody doesn't already know. All you talked about is how it isn't being talked about; well, you just joined team "cover up". You claim to have solid sources on the matter; if that is indeed true, share it.

RetiredShoe · 4/30/14, 8:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RGraves

Nice way to try and get some listeners. You didn't talk about anything that everybody doesn't already know. All you talked about is how it isn't being talked about; well, you just joined team "cover up". You claim to have solid sources on the matter; if that is indeed true, share it.

No publicity stunt to it friend. I disagree that we only talked about what people already knew. The majority of people I have talked to believe that TK left the ride of his own accord and I didn't have this information until 15 minutes before we recorded the show. We cite Winged Nation and Kyle Larson as the source for the "trouble" comment and we had a source that let us know TK was a front runner for his ride even with the "trouble". That's all the information we had and we wanted to stop short of speculation. I feel you though, because I want more information as well. The problem is that NOBODY is giving any out. Thanks for listening!

cshuman · 4/30/14, 10:06 PM

Maybe they aren't giving any information because they feel it isn't there place to?

RetiredShoe · 4/30/14, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cshuman

Maybe they aren't giving any information because they feel it isn't there place to?

A fair point, but this is sport. There are clearly people who desire this information, as well as people who are trying to investigate to uncover details that are struggling to get any answers. Do we have a right to know? Nah, but it is an interesting discussion point. And the more interesting discussion points the sport has the more people that will have interest in the sport, in my opinion anyway.

cshuman · 4/30/14, 11:45 PM

Not sure about you, but I don't want people to be interested in the sport I love because a driver may or may not have gotten into some trouble.. I want them to be interested in it because of what the drivers do on the track.. But if you are so worried about trying to expose a guys off the track troubles to get your little show some listeners, sack up and go to the source, call TK and ask him, quit "talking" about people not talking about it.. This is of course... just my opinion

thebus79h · 4/30/14, 11:58 PM

Got zero to do with getting listeners. We both felt like it was newsworthy. Someone else said it, we just talked about it. No different than people on other message boards have. in fact numerous times on the show I even stated that I hope he's back soon. Last week we heard before we did the show there was a rumor about this sort of stuff and we said nothing of it due to the fact it was just heresay. What we heard today out of someone's mouth on another show somewhat brought it to the forefront. In fact we both said tonight that we hope for the best and it sounds like he's getting a ride very soon.

Casey you are right in the fact that we want growth in the sport. What y'all do every week is the reason I make myself broke going to the races. This we both felt was worthy of having a discussion and that's pretty much it.

AustinSprinter · 5/1/14, 12:23 AM

.....the info we're interested in !!.............
Who is this 'RetiredShoe' ??....that he needs to remain anonyomous !!....afraid we'll know your NAME??....if not, give us a clue......
____________
Brucer'

thebus79h · 5/1/14, 1:01 AM

His name is AJ. He's on the website and when you listen to the show his name is listed as well.

RetiredShoe · 5/1/14, 7:37 AM

I'm definitely not hiding Brucer. My name is A.J. Jobe. It's all over the website and the show so I thought most knew that was me. And we weren't concerned with exposing anybody; that wasn't the point. We were under the impression that he left the seat for personal reasons and would be back when hes better. Since that wasn't the case and we had said on the show that it was, we told everybody it wasn't. Beyond that it's a non-issue. TK's not talking to anybody who is calling him right now and that's fine. If he is having trouble I can assure you we wish him the best. I don't get paid a single dime for people listening to the show, so there's no reason for me to plan a stunt to get them to. It's not up to me to determine what's interesting and what isn't, and it doesn't matter to me what part of racing gets them to the track. A good percentage of race fans go to watch crashes. Do I hate that? Hell yeah I do, but their money has helped support racing since the very beginning so we can't really stop them at the gate. If we offended anybody I'm sorry, but that was not our intent. That's why it hit me out of left field that a few were.

4/30/14, 6:27 PM	#1 Episode 8 - The Roth 83 and Phantom Headaches
RetiredShoe Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 185	This one is one you don't want to miss. We got some info about Tim Kaeding's exit from the 83 and unlike everyone else, we talked about it. I get pretty fired up in this one and I think it's an important show. Hope you like it. http://www.wfopenwheel.com/2014/04/3...tom-headaches/

4/30/14, 11:58 PM	#7 Re: Episode 8 - The Roth 83 and Phantom Headaches
thebus79h Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 446	Got zero to do with getting listeners. We both felt like it was newsworthy. Someone else said it, we just talked about it. No different than people on other message boards have. in fact numerous times on the show I even stated that I hope he's back soon. Last week we heard before we did the show there was a rumor about this sort of stuff and we said nothing of it due to the fact it was just heresay. What we heard today out of someone's mouth on another show somewhat brought it to the forefront. In fact we both said tonight that we hope for the best and it sounds like he's getting a ride very soon. Casey you are right in the fact that we want growth in the sport. What y'all do every week is the reason I make myself broke going to the races. This we both felt was worthy of having a discussion and that's pretty much it.

5/1/14, 12:23 AM	#8 Gravel in The Roth #83 @ Eldora!!..THATS......
AustinSprinter Senior Member Race Count This Year: (22) Race Count Last Year: (29) Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,428	.....the info we're interested in !!............. Who is this 'RetiredShoe' ??....that he needs to remain anonyomous !!....afraid we'll know your NAME??....if not, give us a clue...... ____________ Brucer'

5/1/14, 7:37 AM	#10 Re: Episode 8 - The Roth 83 and Phantom Headaches
RetiredShoe Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 185	I'm definitely not hiding Brucer. My name is A.J. Jobe. It's all over the website and the show so I thought most knew that was me. And we weren't concerned with exposing anybody; that wasn't the point. We were under the impression that he left the seat for personal reasons and would be back when hes better. Since that wasn't the case and we had said on the show that it was, we told everybody it wasn't. Beyond that it's a non-issue. TK's not talking to anybody who is calling him right now and that's fine. If he is having trouble I can assure you we wish him the best. I don't get paid a single dime for people listening to the show, so there's no reason for me to plan a stunt to get them to. It's not up to me to determine what's interesting and what isn't, and it doesn't matter to me what part of racing gets them to the track. A good percentage of race fans go to watch crashes. Do I hate that? Hell yeah I do, but their money has helped support racing since the very beginning so we can't really stop them at the gate. If we offended anybody I'm sorry, but that was not our intent. That's why it hit me out of left field that a few were.