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3/27/08, 11:38 PM   #31
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When will this week be archived?
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3/27/08, 11:54 PM   #32
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The time limits on the supporting classes is already being done at Tri-State speedway and has worked out great there,they run the sprint feature first then the mods can take as long as they want to run there feature.Will say the time limits on the heats did put a stop to a lot of the b s that was going on among there races anyway.Would be nice to see them use the sprint bandit format to for the sprints because I would rather watch them racing instead of time trials and yes the mscs format works out great to.Waiting patiently for the 2008 season to begin and see what happens with the new usac and how things are run.
 
3/28/08, 6:02 AM   #33
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A couple of thoughts. First, the time limit idea on preliminary races works. I first saw this done at the 1/2 mile Nazareth Speedway back in the 60's when a two division show of modifieds & novices (sportsman) would draw 125 or more cars. Heats & consis for the 90 or so sportsman would be 8 laps or 15 minutes. I saw a couple of races that had big crashes at the start and, when it couldn't be cleaned up in time, the finishing order was the starting order minus the crashees. It worked very, very well. The racers knew that if they wanted to race for their spots they had to stop all the unneeded BS. Another idea that has been brought up here and works well is limiting the support divisions to no more than two and inviting only the top 20 in points for features only. A program that consists of sprint heats, 1st support feature, sprint B main(s), 2nd support feature, sprint feature moves along very nicely.
 
3/28/08, 8:09 AM   #34
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Folks...let me be the fly in the ointment and remind everyone now that they have addressed the areas of Fire, Safety and Health with a new director how can these races possibly go past 10:30pm? :O:

I am siding with DO on this subject. So many changes going on all at once; I think we all need to let things sort themselves out and see where the chips fall. I am guessing Jason squared aren't going to let things fail on their watch. :applaud:
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3/28/08, 8:58 AM   #35
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If Race Fan Radio wants more listeners, they would be wise to allow us to listen to their programs away from a PC. If they distributed their shows as podcasts, I would be far more interested. That way I could listen to them on my way to work, in line at the bank, while shopping.....

I would love to listen to several of their programs.... But I have no desire to be sitting in front of a computer to listen.
 
3/28/08, 9:51 AM   #36
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If Race Fan Radio wants more listeners, they would be wise to allow us to listen to their programs away from a PC. If they distributed their shows as podcasts, I would be far more interested. That way I could listen to them on my way to work, in line at the bank, while shopping.....

I would love to listen to several of their programs.... But I have no desire to be sitting in front of a computer to listen.
I bought a FM transmitter from C.Crane. It plugs into my computer speakers and broadcasts the program to any radio in the house. Just find an empty channel to tune to and it is like you are listening on real radio
 
3/28/08, 2:16 PM   #37
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Big-time auto racing qualifies. Drawing is fine if you want to watch a local sprint car show or something, but when the best guys are there and a national championship is on the line, I want to see those guys qualify. And the funny thing about it is that the good guys step up. And when they don't, they acknowledge that they screwed up.

I often times end up seriously disappointed with draw shows, but the qualifying shows always give you a good product when there are enough cars. Agreed that those meaningless heat races can be bad, but the best thing about a USAC show is the fully-inverted heat race where only four cars transfer!
 
3/28/08, 2:34 PM   #38
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I also agree with DO. Lets give USAC a chance.
 
3/28/08, 3:06 PM   #39
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Big-time auto racing qualifies. Drawing is fine if you want to watch a local sprint car show or something, but when the best guys are there and a national championship is on the line, I want to see those guys qualify. And the funny thing about it is that the good guys step up. And when they don't, they acknowledge that they screwed up.

I often times end up seriously disappointed with draw shows, but the qualifying shows always give you a good product when there are enough cars. Agreed that those meaningless heat races can be bad, but the best thing about a USAC show is the fully-inverted heat race where only four cars transfer!

Getting around a lot more than I do. I respect your view. I don't necessarly agree with it. Expecially when it's geared to be EXCLUSIVE instead of INCLUSIVE. Probably 3/4 of the non wing tracks don't qualify. So a guy trys to make a USAC show and is stuck in a Non qualifiers right off the bat that is overcrowded with not enough laps.

The Midget week format was far more exciting to me than a regular show. Granted Qualifying can be fun to watch but I feel it just ruins a track for the rest of the night with all cars running the same groove (Wherevers fastest)

Where the Midget week and (Chili Bowl format) is more exciting to me is that fourth place isn't good enough. They go for third, second or the win, Why? Because every spot has meaning, Not just the top four. You want to keep it fair for the ones who follow the series, Up the provisionals a few but still base it on points.

It's the racers responsibility to get themselves into the feature, Not the tracks, not the sanctioning body or the format. That being said, I feel all these elements should be the fair for everybody.

Personally I love showing up to some of these draw series and seeing 50-60-88 sprint cars. Several of which are always capable (IN A RACE) yet I get the feeling say Why Bother? when it comes to USAC due to the format.

With Transponders, A good puter program and time limits and Limits on number of support classes. You could see 60 car USAC races with 5-6 ten lap heats, two consis and a feature and be done by 10:30 easy. Don't believe me. There were a few nights burg go the whole program in by 1000 and once by 9"30 last year with 45 sprinters, 40+ mods and another support class.
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3/28/08, 4:17 PM   #40
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