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10/8/12, 5:57 PM |
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Re: POWRi Illinois Midget week 2013 dates announce
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For those of us who have to buy plane tickets to get to either POWRi or USAC events, this looks like good news. I can't imagine why anyone would find anything negative about it.
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10/8/12, 7:57 PM |
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Re: POWRi Illinois Midget week 2013 dates announce
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![]() I think Jerry will want to attend the Macon, Saturday June 8th, 2103 event so he can once again wax poetic about driving thru the Illinois corn and soybean fields to get to Macon. See ya there, buddy! ![]() |
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10/8/12, 8:02 PM |
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Re: POWRi Illinois Midget week 2013 dates announce
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Already looking forward to it. Right in my backyard too.
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10/8/12, 8:03 PM |
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Re: POWRi Illinois Midget week 2013 dates announce
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maybe we can start emailing POWRI and the track promoter for Vermilion County Speedway to make this happen. I know we can fill the stand for a midget race. Watched a few USAC midget shows several years ago there and I think they also had BADGER or one of the other old sanctioning bodies race there.
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10/8/12, 8:23 PM |
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Re: POWRi Illinois Midget week 2013 dates announce
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I'm not making fun of the fact that there's a midget series in Illinois, like this one. It's great that there is, it's been a long time coming. I'm just suspicious of the timing of it. Here we are, two days removed from the Gold Crown Nationals. One of the best events all year. And it's one that POWRI ADDED an event to their schedule, right across town from Pontoon Beach, on the night of their finale. I don't think anybody with an open mind believes that this wasn't done to try to take away from Kevin Gundaker's event. Luckily, they weren't successful in doing so. Now, on the first weekday following that event, they announce Illinois Midget Week, either during or immediately preceding Indiana Midget Week? Again, who believes this wasn't done to steal the thunder of that event. A series that is most of these Indiana tracks second biggest race they have all year. And not everybody can go to races for two weeks straight, like a lot of us can. So this will cost those Indiana Midget Week tracks some fans. And those casual fans make up quite a few people who are in the stands, on any given night. Why would one of these IMW tracks want to schedule a POWRI event, when POWRI's peeing contest with USAC may cost them some revenue?
And how can there be an Illinois Midget Week that doesn't include Tri-City Speedway? That may be the best track for midgets I've ever been to. Now, don't get me wrong, this isn't a "POWRI bad, USAC good" post, because there are cases that they do the same damn thing. The Belleville Midget Nationals, for instance. And that's wrong, too. These organizations and tracks are going to have to start working together, instead of trying to hurt these marquee events or we're going to all be in trouble. Fans, tracks, drivers, everybody. Especially in challenging times, with $4 gas and economic uncertainty. Jerry
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10/8/12, 8:49 PM |
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Re: POWRi Illinois Midget week 2013 dates announce
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Trying to look at the big picture for the traveling fan that has to travel long distances,and the fact that a guy like Michael Pickens is willing to travel a long distance to race with POWRi the weekend before Midget Week,(as he has the last couple years) we thought that the week before Indiana Midget Week would be a good choice for a couple extra races for far away travelers such as Pickens, before heading over to Indiana for Midget week,assuming they (USAC) were going to have the schedule they have had the last few years. I looked at it that way,as in the past I WAS the traveling fan,the guy from Maine that would travel a long ways from home, and try to get to as many races as I could in a short period of time.I live out here now,and they could run it whenever they wanted to,and I'll go watch it. I wasnt just thinking of me,however,I was thinking of others that travel long distances to go watch a lot of races in a short amount of time. I'm glad you mentioned the $4.00 a gallon gasoline. That also was part of the equation for the traveling fan,including myself.Once a person comes out here for the 2 weeks,the traveling isnt really that big between the 2 states.If a person had to come out here 2 different times of the season,it would be that much more expensive,and you might as well count out the fans that come from around the world and be able to come to both then. There is no conspiracy on the timing of this. I have known for a few weeks when and where Illinois Midget week was going to be.Wanting to find out when I could share the news with people from as far away as Australia and New Zealand,so they can make travel plans months in advance,I inquired with Kenny Brown (whom I just met in person Saturday for the first time) and he told me I could spread the word and the dates.I just announced it here and a few other places with POWRi's ok.No conspiracy whatsoever. Just done early for the traveling fan that has to plan his vacation early,and also early enough for the fan that travels Internationally as well. I've done both in the past,both traveling long distances in the States,and traveled Internationally to Australia. Its nice to be able to have your plans made months in advance.
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10/8/12, 10:03 PM |
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10/8/12, 10:21 PM |
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Re: POWRi Illinois Midget week 2013 dates announce
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Jerry, most of us had no clue about how well you could open our imaginations and/or memories of travelling through the Midwest in the summertime until you authored such posts as the two you revived above. So we will be looking forward to Illinois Midget Week and also to your travelogue on IOW, describing attending the events.
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10/8/12, 11:27 PM |
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Re: POWRi Illinois Midget week 2013 dates announce
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As a promoter of one of these proposed events, I really have a hard time understanding what the issue is...
At our last midget race at Jacksonville, there were a small handful of Indiana based cars, but the vast majority were POWRi regulars from Illinois/Missouri along with a few Wisconsin cars. I wouldn't expect USAC to reschedule their Pennsylvania sprint car swing on account of Illinois Midget Week (or whatever it ends up being called with the Micros at each show as well) - so I suspect the general make-up of the field will be similar to past POWRi bigger events held in Illinois. For the most part, Indiana midget week will have the USAC regulars and Indiana locals, with a handful of cars from Illinois and other neighboring states traveling. I know that we haven't sent the midgets I'm involved with to Indiana Midget Week in the past and wouldn't have done so in 2013 either. They can race on weeknights in Illinois an hour or so from home, where they can't in Indiana because of jobs. I suspect that the same holds true for many Indiana-based midgets not being able to travel to Illinois for 4 straight days. Jacksonville is 2-1/2 to 3 hours from the Indiana border. Belleville and Lincoln are similar. Knoxville is as close to Jacksonville as Indianapolis and we don't work our wing schedule in Jacksonville around what's going on in Knoxville because the distance doesn't have us sharing many cars or fans - at least not enough to determine the success or failure of a show. As someone with some responsibility for creating a schedule for MOWA, I don't care what the IRA is doing on a given weekend in Wisconsin - even though we regularly work together and consult on issues our series have in common. And I don't suspect that the IRA in Wisconsin is paying a lot of attention to when we schedule our MOWA sprint week when they are scheduling their shows - even though on off weekends for one series or another we might send a few cars one direction or the other. They worry about what's best for the IRA, and we worry about what's best for MOWA. The week after the proposed Illinois Midget week, the UMP Summer Nationals begin which pretty well consumes the big event budgets for tracks and the pocket books for fans in our neck of the woods for the next 6 weeks - and is a far bigger concern for me than what's going on in Indiana. Any earlier and we are prohibited by City Ordinance from running on a week night due to school. After the Summer Nationals conclude, we hold a MOWA Sprint Week, then it gets close to Illinois State Fair week and suddenly kids are back in school and are again prohibited from weeknights. We would love for everyone from Indiana to follow 4 nights of midget racing in Illinois and we plan to roll out the red carpet for visiting fans if we end up hosting one of the events at Jacksonville. But at the same time... if we can put together four consecutive nights of racing for our area midget teams and fans - many of whom wouldn't be going to Indiana anyway, why shouldn't we? This has nothing to do with USAC vs. POWRi or hidden agendas. As a track we have been receptive to discussing potential shows with USAC that could work over here as well. I'm sure the folks at USAC spend very little time worrying about what's going on in Illinois or with POWRi. They have to do what's best for USAC. I also am confident that POWRi's main focus is what's best for POWRi... and hopefully what's best for both of them also coincides with what's best for race fans across the Midwest. I see nothing bad for the race fan in having numerous options to watch midget racing in June 2013.
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10/9/12, 5:26 AM |
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Re: POWRi Illinois Midget week 2013 dates announce
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The POWRi races in Illinois will mostly be cars that race with POWRi on a regular basis,with a few extra cars from here and there. Indiana Midget Week will be mostly USAC cars,also with a few cars from here and there as well. This site may be called Indiana Open Wheel,but there are fans from many states in the USA,and around the world that read this.Already some of those fans are starting to make plans for next years racing.Some people here just look in between the borders of the State of Indiana,where I try to look beyond them.Surely that comes from all my years of traveling to events all over the place. I've already heard from friends in Australia planning on coming over and doing this,and it gives them more races to go to.Same goes for my retired friends that like to travel to the races.I also received an inquiry yesterday from a guy in Michigan,who has never been to the 4 tracks in Illinois,and its a chance to to to 4 new tracks all in one swoop. By the same token,I would say its safe to say my house in Indiana will be full again from traveling fans coming out for Indiana Midget week as well.
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