[short track scott]

Sam has a great point. When the TV lights come on it tends to bring out sponsors, which brings out cars. I hope the tv races are supported by good car counts. Is there a tv package announced yet?

These cars have to be safe, USAC legal equipment. That is one thing I will never begrudge USAC is trying to keep people safer. No '89 Gamblers with a pavement front axle. Teams that run this series are going to have to spend some real money to do it. If the purses of a National pavement race kept teams at home, paying less wouldn't seem to be the answer in this case. Unless teams are getting a lot of sponsors because of tv.

Calling the '11 season "regional" relieves the National Championship contenders of the obligation of a pavement ride. But this regional series is will have to be supported by full up National level cars, or have entirely new rules. The first guy that brings a National car to ORP to run and the cost to play just went back up.

Tom has raced on his budget for years. He supports the shows. And HOSS is glad to have him and his racecars every week. HOSS winners are about $300 less than Kok, Burg, Bloom winners, but HOSS starters make twice what those starters make. The HOSS series has always been about giving budget guys a place to go broke all season long instead of parking it by June. There are some guys running on better budgets than others, but they seem to be ok with spending enough to run well because they can. HOSS has seen guys come and go too. And we miss them because we do our little races together and enjoy helping and competing together.

Hopefully USAC can find what it takes to make it work. We as racers are almost like addicts sometimes. If there is any way to race somewhere we try to do it. Almost always to our detriment, but in the moment of victory it all fades away.

Its time to go racing. See y'all in Fort Wayne, because I can't make Duquoin.
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[767]

Originally Posted by short track scott HOSS winners are about $300 less than Kok, Burg, Bloom winners, but HOSS starters make twice what those starters make. The HOSS series has always been about giving budget guys a place to go broke all season long instead of parking it by June. There are some guys running on better budgets than others, but they seem to be ok with spending enough to run well because they can. HOSS has seen guys come and go too. And we miss them because we do our little races together and enjoy helping and competing together. Posted via Mobile Device

Thats the ticket right there! Show me someone else paying $600 to start the feature each and every night. I think HOSS and MSR have the same bottom line budget. Not sure on AVSS. The 1 thing fans constantly forget, the slow guys are the ones that make up your car count. (think back in the day when Some sprint week races would have 70+ cars. how many of those cars never had a chance to make the field? 20 or so. add 20 cars to this years fields, what are there car counts now? 50-60+) Also I love your Nascar referance. That was great, its true!

The 1 thing people on this board constantly forget about is the big sanctioning fee's. I garuntee you if tracks thought they could turn a profiet off of a usac sprint car pavement race, there would be races at every single paved track in Indiana. Right now the wing guys are much cheaper to bring in. Smaller purse, smaller sanctioning fee's, more cars, and a decent fan base. Hopefully usac is able to turn something around, but on pavement wings are the best bang for the buck.

[Mud Packer]

I wasn't aware that there was going to be any TV coverage. Obviously I didn't read the same information. Who is televising the pavement series?

[Charles Nungester]

Originally Posted by BrentTFunk The way it looks to me when a promoter runs sprints that race for less they get more cars. Isn't a big selling point of the Must See series that it is cheaper than USAC? They seem to draw more cars. I didn't say I understand it, just the way it looks to me.

Seems that way, Although some give the Haans as the reason or the DT3 while most have both anyways. I think the PVille USAC/Reg show proved that many just won't run with em for some reason. Although the USAC portion was well attended.

Seems to me also, Where the money is, is where most teams aren't anymore. In the late 80s-90s Mel would put up a four or five thousand show out of nowhere and 50 sprinters would show, Once even against the kings Royal

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Originally Posted by Honest-Sam I think that the biggest thing about the 2011 USAC Sprint Pavement is the TV deal. TV races are a different animal. Don't be surprised if you see more cars and new faces, regardless of the purse. Posted via Mobile Device

What TV deal? best i know of its thats a Hearsay also.

I know theres several teams that have SC cars that simply parked em and still won't run em for whatever reason, Probably we invest in new tires, a couple motors ect and they'll pull the rug out again......

[BrentTFunk]

Just out of curiosity, what kind of insurance do the other series provide. No matter what you say about USAC their insurance is at the top. Seems like that would be important to a person on a budget. Especially at tracks like Winchester and Salem. Scott thank you for the imformation you have provided. Also thank you Tom.

[duel]

are the usac tv races taped or are any of them live?

[Honest-Sam]

http://www.usacracing.com/sprint_index/news_s/4261.html

Obviously, still more info on this that is not known as of yet. Also, the word around the campfire is that we have USAC's involvement in the TORC deal to thank for this, although I cannot personally confirm that.

[Mud Packer]

Originally Posted by Honest-Sam http://www.usacracing.com/sprint_index/news_s/4261.html Obviously, still more info on this that is not known as of yet. Also, the word around the campfire is that we have USAC's involvement in the TORC deal to thank for this, although I cannot personally confirm that.

Sam,

That is what I read originally but I don't see anything about TV mentioned. Is the TV part you refer to coming from the "word around the campfire"?

[767]

good point, but what was insurance 10 years ago? Maybe you are onto something else, less drivers, less to cover. If your comment was to me about my comment on the high fee's, I have 1 question for you, do you really need the usac semi at every race, or the numerouse vehicles that travel along? There is deffinatly a cost to that. Maybe they do, and I have to much of an old school mentality. I just wonder how much cost could be cut out of the program just by triming the fat. I just wonder at what point do dirt tracks start turning events down?

[Honest-Sam]

Originally Posted by Mud Packer Sam, That is what I read originally but I don't see anything about TV mentioned. Is the TV part you refer to coming from the "word around the campfire"?

You know what, maybe I messed up. I reread it, and it doesn't actually say there's TV. I took "Thursday Night Thunder" to be comfirmation of that. But I may be reading into it.

Sorry for the stir. Maybe the campfire will still be right though.