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9/16/09, 9:08 PM   #31
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Lauren Besecker
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I don't know about any of this, don't care about it either.

What I do want to know is:

Spridge, can I borrow a dollar? Better yet, let's just sponsor Gherke with all your money.

L
 
9/16/09, 9:10 PM   #32
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Kirk Spridgeon
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Hey racing is absolutely everything to me but there comes a time when you have to let it stand for itself.

Besides, did any of those ask you to defend them? If you are so passionate about defending things, become a defense attorney.
If it is everything in your life, how do you leave it?

I think it's called the good samaritan rule. When people are spreading false rumors about you that could cost you business and hurt you financially (or any other way, really), should people just ignore it and thus agree with it?

And on the same chord...do I ever ask the opinion of someone who doesn't ever go to any races? No. But somehow, you always end up commenting anyway.
 
9/16/09, 9:15 PM   #33
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I don't know about any of this, don't care about it either.

What I do want to know is:

Spridge, can I borrow a dollar? Better yet, let's just sponsor Gherke with all your money.

L
Now that I think about it, if having an absolutely kick-ass t-shirt collection makes one rich, then the shoe just might fit!

Back to the original post:
Hey bud. I'm not disagreeing with you - I think cancelling races without rescheduling really sucks. With that in mind, I only count six cancelled races this year. Wichita Falls, Anderson, Sun Prairie, Winchester, and two in Louisiana.
 
9/16/09, 9:18 PM   #34
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The WOO are in the same finiancial trouble that they have been for the past 3-4 years (maybe even longer). They are like a bazillion dollars in debt with no real way out of it. Every year I am convinced will be their last, and every year they come back to race. This is not new information.


I also am tired of people thinking that USAC is the root of all evil.
 
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9/16/09, 9:55 PM   #35
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it is funny/odd no usac officals posted anything in regards to the opening statement they have time if they are not running winchester
 
9/16/09, 10:05 PM   #36
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I have been a sprint and midget fan for 42 years and I read this site daily, but rarely post. With that said, I guess I don't understand the bickering that goes on on this site. The sport that so many of us love is in crisis. Costs are up, purses are not keeping up, attendance is down, tracks are closing and car counts are shrinking. If our sport is going to survive and prosper we, the fans, have to stay united. We can still have and express our opinions, BUT we have to unite in support of the sport and work with the sanctioning bodies and track operators/promoters to change and evolve the sport going forward.

Okay.....I have my say....blast away guys.

Steve
 
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9/16/09, 11:49 PM   #37
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my bad kirk....don't forget the hut 100...so 7. I just read somewhere else that Winchester was cancelled due to "economic conditions." Bummer.
 
9/17/09, 12:31 AM   #38
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Have at it, fellas. I don't have a dog in this fight. Not along the lines that have been drawn in the sand, here. Racing is important to me. Years ago, perhaps, I could have sought to have made it my life. But not anymore. Life is my Life. I enjoy fraternizing with the people for whom this sport, be it midgets, sprints or winged sprints and Indy Cars, IS their life, but it isn't mine. From that perspective I can say that the idea of fans "uniting" is a pipedream like bi-partisanship in ********: AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN.
Further, the idea that the USAC ship is going to remedy itself without a sea-change in philosophy is equally unconvincing. But we have THESE races, now. And many of them are as competitive as any races from "the good old days" ever were. It isn't necessary to talk in terms of "evil" and "usuk" in order to make the point that sports have to perpetually remain vigilant to the needs of their attending fans. All other considerations build outward from the notion of filling seats.
If a track adds four support classes to bolster the back gate, but the racing suffers for it, that point won't be overlooked. If Salem has 10 cars competing and doesn't RADICALLY adjust the program in some way to make the few fans in attendance not feel cheated, fewer will attend again. If a half-mile track has two tow trucks, badly-managed cleanup efforts and general malaise, expect some fans to say "Goodbye" forever. That might really mean: f-o-r-e-v-e-r.
We should feel passionately about this sport we love. Like no other sport on earth, race car drivers put their lives on the line every night. A little ******** and venting by some who are not properly-informed of all the facts isn't the end of the world, but just saying it's business-as-usual isn't satisfying either. This is a sport littered with cultural contradictions, yet pure in it's one pursuit.: Fastest Guy Wins. (should win)
I'll no longer let somebody running some bit of noise up this particular flagpole to see if anyone salutes it get on my nerves, I just wanna see good races.
Fortunately, I have a reasoned-enough understanding of what I expect to see to limit my race viewing to those events where I actually believe I might see something that feeds my soul. Many of those events are USAC ones--the majority of the races I attend, in fact. But I pass on more than I view. I can't see that changing even if I hit the Powerball numbers.
See you folks at Four-Crown...
 
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9/17/09, 12:37 AM   #39
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my bad kirk....don't forget the hut 100...so 7. I just read somewhere else that Winchester was cancelled due to "economic conditions." Bummer.
Duh. Good call on Hut. Winchester would have looked just fine on Sunday to you, right? The rainout at Sun Prairie sucked, and it sucks to lose the Hut Hundred, even if only this year. The rest aren't too heartbreaking - especially that trip to pound pavement in Louisiana when some of us can be at Trophy Cup.

Good luck this weekend, mcgillicutty...
 
9/17/09, 5:40 AM   #40
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I like the idea of speedway bikes at a midget show, lots of fast action all night long.....
 
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