[thebus79h]

Originally Posted by Mark Sr That's what happen's when you let kid's race at a young age. they don't care about what they have.. he has the best of the best.. there not going to set out.. if I was his Dad.. someone would be driving the car that I have all that money in and he could help in the pit's or set at home... it's so hard for hard working race's that care to get sponsor's, and yet pepole like that have good one's.....

Wow. If that's not stereotyping I don't know what is. I know plenty of "kids" that race that take care of their equipment, and know what they have.

Penalty fit the crime.

[IndyBound]

Glad to hear Mr. Memmer recieved a suspension for his actions. JMHO he will be paying the price for his actions allot longer than the length of his suspension. If Mr. Memmer ever had dreams or the desire to make it in the big leagues of auto racing, he has no one but himself to blame for those dreams being dashed. He will be damaged goods as far as securing sponsorship for years to come in my opinion.

Patti

[sceckert]

Still say those t-shirts of his car facing down a Chinese tank would sell big time.

[Jerry Shaw]

Originally Posted by sceckert Still say those t-shirts of his car facing down a Chinese tank would sell big time.

When I saw the PR about the punishment handed down, my first thought was "Looks like the tank ran over the Chinese guy, in this version of the story."

Jerry

[sprint38racer]

Originally Posted by sceckert Still say those t-shirts of his car facing down a Chinese tank would sell big time.

roflol, great post

[TeamCGR]

Originally Posted by Mark Sr That's what happen's when you let kid's race at a young age. they don't care about what they have.. he has the best of the best.. there not going to set out.. if I was his Dad.. someone would be driving the car that I have all that money in and he could help in the pit's or set at home... it's so hard for hard working race's that care to get sponsor's, and yet pepole like that have good one's.....

I have read this post a half dozen times to try and figure where the comparison to this incident should tie in all the "kids" of this sport. We, this team, usually take the high road on all incidents and do not comment publicly when something happens that is controversial. However, it appears that you are attempting to lump all the young drivers into a stereotyped group so that when something happens, it can be chalked up to their youth and financial backing. For the teams and parents that have worked very hard to make sure their drivers or children are respectful to the fellow drivers, fans, track management, and especially their sponsors, this posting is a little unfair.

Some of the young men and woman that race today, regardless of their age or financial standing, are honest, caring and love the sport Racing. They do their best to emulate the best drivers in the business, while looking for the respect of their peers and all parties involved. Actually, not some, MOST.

I believe these young people will find your post offensive but will not make a stance because they have been taught better. So I will make the statement. Bunching everyone of these youngsters into a group that associates them with something this dramatic is wrong. Regardless of Financial Standing or Age, an incident this dramatic is unfortunate and we believe unacceptable just like everyone else. But we respectfully request to not be labeled, just like some of the other youngsters do, as a "problem group" because of age and financial standing. It is just not right.

We are friends with the Memmers but certainly do not condone or support John's actions on that night. I am sure their Family has taken a serious beating by many over this incident. As for the rest of the "kids", I can assure you this is one group that would not have to wait for any sanctions to be placed against our driver. He would already be back in New York working at a Hamburger Stand if that kind of actions took place under this Flag. I am sure that is the same with many other parents of these young guns. So please be a little more cautious with your tagging of these kids. Most of them are going to do this sport a lot of justice in the coming years.

Pete Gulick
Hazardous Sports
CGR

[Mark Sr]

Originally Posted by TeamCGR I have read this post a half dozen times to try and figure where the comparison to this incident should tie in all the "kids" of this sport. We, this team, usually take the high road on all incidents and do not comment publicly when something happens that is controversial. However, it appears that you are attempting to lump all the young drivers into a stereotyped group so that when something happens, it can be chalked up to their youth and financial backing. For the teams and parents that have worked very hard to make sure their drivers or children are respectful to the fellow drivers, fans, track management, and especially their sponsors, this posting is a little unfair. Some of the young men and woman that race today, regardless of their age or financial standing, are honest, caring and love the sport Racing. They do their best to emulate the best drivers in the business, while looking for the respect of their peers and all parties involved. Actually, not some, MOST. I believe these young people will find your post offensive but will not make a stance because they have been taught better. So I will make the statement. Bunching everyone of these youngsters into a group that associates them with something this dramatic is wrong. Regardless of Financial Standing or Age, an incident this dramatic is unfortunate and we believe unacceptable just like everyone else. But we respectfully request to not be labeled, just like some of the other youngsters do, as a "problem group" because of age and financial standing. It is just not right. We are friends with the Memmers but certainly do not condone or support John's actions on that night. I am sure their Family has taken a serious beating by many over this incident. As for the rest of the "kids", I can assure you this is one group that would not have to wait for any sanctions to be placed against our driver. He would already be back in New York working at a Hamburger Stand if that kind of actions took place under this Flag. I am sure that is the same with many other parents of these young guns. So please be a little more cautious with your tagging of these kids. Most of them are going to do this sport a lot of justice in the coming years. Pete Gulick Hazardous Sports CGR

LOL.. your right not all the young kid's are that way.. but there is those that do not care.. maybe it was the way I was raised. when you have to make your own way and bust a## to make it so you can do what you love it's hard to watch someone that has it give to them not care.. it's not just in racing it's everywhere.. kid's now day's don't care.. and have no respect.. look around.. when I was a kid.. you got paddaled in school, didn't talk back. and had respect for other's. how's that go? spare the rod!! many may not like what I say.. but life goes on. it's so much fun to stir the pot :2:

[mcintosh34]

Mark Sr. Wow you must have the same guy writing your material that John used in his apology, although you didnt mention a tank. All kids are not bad, and I do take offense at your comments. I normally do not post, but after reading both your post, I had to reply. You are entitiled to your opinion, even when your wrong. There are a lot of good kids out there, in racing and everywhere else. They are our future. I think we are in good hands.
Robert McIntosh

[openwheelKT]

I personally think he should be sat down for the rest of the year. No need to see him on the track anytime soon IMO.

All kids aren't like that I will say. Chad Boat is a great example to me. Nice, polite, respectful, fast, and wins. He knows how the car works and can work on it himself. He takes care of his equipment because he knows his dad is giving him a great opportunity to race.

[Chuck]

I hope otheer tracks and officials will have a keen eye on John when comes to race with them. He is still a loaded gun with a short powder fuse. This is sad for race fans.
Chuck