Ronnie shuman & emmitt hahn has meet will the indians in scottsdale and there building two new race tracks north of the 101 freeway! One 3/8 mile banked dirt track and one 3/8 mile banked pavement track!!!!!!!!!!!!! They will be back to back 1 big consession stand and restrooms the grandstands also back to back will seat 10000 people! Remenber that a old better fat man that knows nothing about racing told you all first! Your hero and living legend in my mine! The great duke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sounds good, unfortunately none of my friends that race in the Phoenix area have heard this yet. Do you know if they have set a date for a press release or news confrence to announce these new tracks? The only news I am getting out of Phoenix is that Manzy is still just sitting there. Maybe Stewart, Newman, Kahne and Edwards can buy it and reopen Manzy, then when these new tracks are built Arizona race fans can complain about too many race tracks running sprints on a Saturday night. We could only be so lucky!!!!!

Patti

Hope it works out better than this did.

If that were the case it might be worth moving back to Phx!
Now if we can just get Indy Cars back at PIR! And the "real" Copper Classic.
David.

Oh the decision to build them may have been made im sure. The hoops to jump thru. Enviro surveys ect have only just begun.

I hope it happens and soon and Id mimmick Manzy and survey it while its still there

its on indian land!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No hoops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I told you 3/8 mile!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can somebody translate this into the English language?

David, we seem to think alike or at least have the same wishes. I would definitely like the Indy cars back at PIR and the "real" Copper Classic back at PIR, living less than a half hour from PIR that would be great. My early racing experiences were always on pavement, as much as I have adapted to dirt track racing in Az. I am really a pavement girl.

One of the things that first excited me about Superdukes post was they were talking about also building a pavement track; then I thought about Volusia when they built the dirt track next to the pavement track. It didn't work out so well when they tried to run dirt modifieds on the same nights the supers were running on the pavement track. The pvement track became very slippery covered with a coating of dust from the dirt track, it caused numerous accidents for the supers.

Then of course I was hoping whoever built a new track in Arizona would come west to Buckeye, I talked to the town officials before I came east and have been contacted by them once since I have been back east. There was no real news to report from that phone call so I never mentioned it on here until now. Buckeye all ready has land approved for a racetrack what they don't have are hotels. There are three new hotels in the building stages along I10, 1 in Buckeye, 2 in Goodyear. So if they were to ever build a racetrack in Buckeye by the time it was built between Avondale, Goodyear and Buckeye having a place to stay won't be an issue.

Something else I heard rumors of before leaving Az. for the summer, was rumors of one of the Ellis's taking over Casa Grande an getting that track reopenned. To the best of my knowledge this hasn't happended.

Patti

So, they knocked it down to 3/8ths not the 1/2 mile as talked about in April? Is this the word, Duke? It was to be like the old Manzy.

Like Hollywood Hills Speedway was?