[TRUCKER D]

Can any one tell me why the bloomington speedway does not have rain dates for there big races?

Because more often than not these races are scheudled with great cooperation from Jiggs and the folks from Gas City - and if you will look, on the night of the Sheldon Kinser race the UMRA TQ's were scheduled there. If Bloomington offered a higher paying race on a night that Gas City had a regular program that could hurt their crowd and car count which would be the wrong thing to do when you have someone who goes out of their way to work with you for good of everyone.

[Seadog]

Originally Posted by psullivan Because more often than not these races are scheudled with great cooperation from Jiggs and the folks from Gas City - and if you will look, on the night of the Sheldon Kinser race the UMRA TQ's were scheduled there. If Bloomington offered a higher paying race on a night that Gas City had a regular program that could hurt their crowd and car count which would be the wrong thing to do when you have someone who goes out of their way to work with you for good of everyone.

Yet another post that is the voice of reason and common sense from somebody in the know. Another good one Mr. Sullivan.

[ThrottleHead]

It would seem to me.... somewhere along the line.... big races such as that would have a rain date agreed to. I think it's wonderful Jiggs and Miles work together on big races. At some point.... agreeing to rain out options should be discussed. They do compete for a weekly car count...... IMO it's time to work on rain dates. It's a travesty a race held in memorial of a great racer and from all accounts wonderful man will not be run. His memory deserves better.

[TRUCKER D]

Originally Posted by ThrottleHead It would seem to me.... somewhere along the line.... big races such as that would have a rain date agreed to. I think it's wonderful Jiggs and Miles work together on big races. At some point.... agreeing to rain out options should be discussed. They do compete for a weekly car count...... IMO it's time to work on rain dates. It's a travesty a race held in memorial of a great racer and from all accounts wonderful man will not be run. His memory deserves better.

I agree 100 percent.

Rain dates are losers -

[Jerry Shaw]

Originally Posted by ThrottleHead It would seem to me.... somewhere along the line.... big races such as that would have a rain date agreed to. I think it's wonderful Jiggs and Miles work together on big races. At some point.... agreeing to rain out options should be discussed. They do compete for a weekly car count...... IMO it's time to work on rain dates. It's a travesty a race held in memorial of a great racer and from all accounts wonderful man will not be run. His memory deserves better.

I wouldn't be lecturing Mike Miles on how the memory of Sheldon Kinser should be served, Don. I think over the years, he's done right by Sheldon's memory. Just my opinion.

Jerry

[ThrottleHead]

Originally Posted by psullivan Rain dates are losers -

This is not a slam on you personally Pat.... you do a quality job and you are another one who when your time in the booth is over those are shoes NO ONE will ever fill. This part of my post is purely based on your quote of rain dates being losers.

So, therefore, do not reschedule any races rained out? Is this the bottom line? I'm sorry but I do not buy into not rescheduling a top race such as this. Never will buy into it. A weekly race.... well I understand that. I see the "big" races with reschedule dates at other facilities because they are showcase events. Eldora does it for their big races. This race qualifies as a big race for Bloomington.

So, we are left to assume then that the Sheldon Kinser Memorial is dictated by money and not a memorial race for him..... this is truly sad. I hope the Kinser family hears this loud and clear. For a family who credits Bloomington for so much of their racing careers this is just plain sad. And a slap in the face.

Jerry: yes he has over the years. And now we have the race rained out and no scheduled rain date... so we just walk away like it never happened or was going to happen. I just find it to be a bit much. An event like this should have a rain date IMO. Anything less is a travesty to Sheldon and the Kinser family. I am not LECTURING Mike Miles. I am stating an opinion.

[Jerry Shaw]

Originally Posted by ThrottleHead This is not a slam on you personally Pat.... you do a quality job and you are another one who when your time in the booth is over those are shoes NO ONE will ever fill. This part of my post is purely based on your quote of rain dates being losers. So, therefore, do not reschedule any races rained out? Is this the bottom line? I'm sorry but I do not buy into not rescheduling a top race such as this. Never will buy into it. A weekly race.... well I understand that. I see the "big" races with reschedule dates at other facilities because they are showcase events. Eldora does it for their big races. This race qualifies as a big race for Bloomington. So, we are left to assume then that the Sheldon Kinser Memorial is dictated by money and not a memorial race for him..... this is truly sad. I hope the Kinser family hears this loud and clear. For a family who credits Bloomington for so much of their racing careers this is just plain sad. And a slap in the face. Jerry: yes he has over the years. And now we have the race rained out and no scheduled rain date... so we just walk away like it never happened or was going to happen. I just find it to be a bit much. An event like this should have a rain date IMO. Anything less is a travesty to Sheldon and the Kinser family. I am not LECTURING Mike Miles. I am stating an opinion.

He's rescheduled this race, in past years, when there was an opportunity. Perhaps, this year, it's just not in he cards. And sure, maybe it's just your opinion. But, you're using expressions like "slap in the face" and words like "travesty". That sounds overly dramatic and personal, towards someone who has forgotten more about the ways he's honored Sheldon Kinser, than you'll ever think about doing. If I were Mike and either of the websites you represent were on my media list, you wouldn't be there any more.

Jerry

[ThrottleHead]

Originally Posted by Jerry Shaw He's rescheduled this race, in past years, when there was an opportunity. Perhaps, this year, it's just not in he cards. And sure, maybe it's just your opinion. But, you're using expressions like "slap in the face" and words like "travesty". That sounds overly dramatic and personal, towards someone who has forgotten more about the ways he's honored Sheldon Kinser, than you'll ever think about doing. If I were Mike and either of the websites you represent were on my media list, you wouldn't be there any more. Jerry

Over a stated opinion on a messageboard. Ok Jerry. Now who's getting dramatic and personal? Who is attacking who? Did I take a shot at you. NO. But, just like I have seen out of you in other posts, it's personal potshot time. I should have expected as much. Regardless of what else you or anyone posts on this subject, I am done. Oh and for the record I was never on any media list for Bloomington. I guess if we use your example of one disagreement and you lose your credentials.... I guess a number of legitimate journalists would NEVER get credentialed for facilities. Use your imagination on who. It's called America.... I have the First Amendment right to free speech..... which EVERYONE should exercise.... but learn to do effectively. If I would ever lose credentials to a facility over disagreement with something then that would speak volumes about a facility. Again the point of my post was lost. It was NOT A BASH..... simply stating I find it hard to understand how rain dates for big races are not set up.