The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

All I can say is WOW!! The track was unbelievably fast. The bottom slicked off which allowed the guys on the top to be as quick if not quicker for a few guys. Darland, Burdette and Scheurenburg were flying on the high side in the sprint feature blowing by cars. A little bit of a late night with so many cautions and red flags but well worth the twenty bucks. Kudos to the track crew although I am sure someone will gripe about the cushion being rough. Great to see our ol' pal Tom Wilson back flagging for USAC. :checkered: Overall a great night of racing hope all the drivers that took hard flips are okay as Cole Whitt took one hell of a ride in turn three. Also several other guys took some hard rides.

Thanks for a great night of racing,

Shane and Corbin McHenry

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

Only problem that i could see was the wrecker.those guys need to take some lessons. --- man they were slow ---

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

I think they are slow because it is really hard for those guys to safely get to the top of the track. It seems the track crew could help them a little by getting some of the cars in an easier position to tow them. Those guys give up their Saturday nights to tow race cars so it is hard to give them any grief. With all of the cautions, the night did seem to take forever but like I said earlier it was worth waiting for.:thumb

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

Anybody that thought that was a good show, was not at Bloomington.

Somebody needs to take the bozo that runs The' Burg to Bloomington to see how a race is really run. Bloomington had the complete show over by 10:30PM.
And they had reds and yellows, but cleaned things up quickly.

I have several questions about Sat. night.

Why was there a third series when no other track had one?

Why was the format changed from the previous races for the Midgets? They had a 24 car semi and it would have be 26 had 2 cars not made the start. That many cars in a semi is asking for a wreck fest.(Me thinks this was done to try and make time for the Tinker Toys)

Why did they not run the Sprints after Midget hot laps to give the Midgets time to tweek their car and keep action on the track?

Why is there so much down time? (What in the hell is a mandatory intermission?)

Why are their track crew so slow and dysfuntional?(They had this gripe at Sprint Week on Wed.,but seem to correct the problem for Thurs.)

Why do they send out 4 or 5 trucks for a minor spin? ( It takes longer to get the track crew off the track than it does get the race car restarted.)

Why do I get the feeling that this show was planned to run late?(Notice the mufflers on the Minis, so they could run after midnight.)

With a track of 3/8ths mile it is evem more important to keep the program running.

There was some great racing and a lot of excitement,but it should have been over before 11:00 not after midnight.

A great race was ruined by poor management.

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

All i can say to your post, you are a grumpy ole man, and we do not deserve to have you in our presence.
Thanks, and thanks to everyone who came out and had a great time.
Dave

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

Dave,
Great show last night! My family really enjoyed it. I enjoyed all three classes of cars. It's great to see the young drivers of AMSA, their our future.

As for the grumpy ole man.... How in the world can you compain?? You saw great racing, the show moved along at a great pace and I'm sorry if you have to be in bed by 10:30, but come on. What more do you want from the burg???
LIGHTEN UP AND ENJOY LIFE!!

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

Thanks Shane, and thanks for being a fan of Lawrenceburg Speedway.

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

You're not paranoid; They did it just to piss you off.

There is no sense going through life as miserable as you seem to be.

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

I was unable to attend last nights show, living in So. Il. didnt have enough time to get there. However was there for both Sprint week nights and was blown away be the facility. You guys put on a great show and it will only get better with time.

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

I am with you Don, Why were there 3 classes of cars? Every other Midget week race went smooth and done by no later than 11:00. I personally don't care if a show runs a bit late if there is a track rework for the A's, but if there is really no reason for it other than a poor attempt at efficiency....Then that is a drag. Having 3 classes was probably just padding the back gate. Seems the burg runs late all the time. Great facility but not a great .......well you know what I mean.

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

Do not be so touchy if you can not take a little criticism, maybe you should give racing.

My statement was not directed to you personally, but who ever you hired to run the track on race night.

And seriously, go to Kokomo, Bloomington or Gas City, you might learn a trick or two. It couldn't hurt.

Also instead of calling names, why did you not answer my questions?

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

Do not be so touchy if you can not take a little criticism, maybe you should give up racing.

My statement was not directed to you personally, but who ever you hired to run the track on race night.

And seriously, go to Kokomo, Bloomington or Gas City, you might learn a trick or two. It couldn't hurt.

Also instead of calling names, why did you not answer my questions?

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

I personally have never met the perfect promotor of a race track. Sure some are better at what they do but still there is no perfect one. I'm sure even Tommy Helfriech has his critics and to me is probably one of the best in the buisness. Having attended the burg most of my life I have always listened to the complaints about the promotors regardless of who it was. Tom Wieck, Greg Stabb, Jerry King, Craig Stevens, it did'nt matter who they were they were doing something wrong. Race promotion is a tough buisness and we the fans need to step back and look at the big picture. There's alot on their plates on race night but the truth is that preperation for the next weeks race begins at the drop of the final checkered flag of this weeks race. We also need to look at it as a learning experience on the promotors part. Dave is only in his second year at the burg and I'm sure he is still learning. Alot of what worked for him last year may not work now with the new burg so therefore he will have to step back refocus on the issue and attack it to better his program for us the paying customer. We the fans are concerned with the entertainment side of our sport. We want what we want and we want in now. Promotors are concerned with the entertainment side also but also have to look at the buisness angle also which is'nt always popular with those in the seats. I wish I could attend on a weekly basis but that's impossible. Still looking for my first visit of the year to the new burg however that unfortunately may not be until Fun Fest. Dave keep up the good work and remember that the problems you encounter as promotor of the burg are learning opportunities which can only make your program that much stronger. You have everything in place now it's just a matter of fine tuning.

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

You have to be extremely thick skinned to be a promotor of automobile races (especially Dirt!). My advice to any promotor is the stay out of these internet forum squabbles. It will only make one look unprofessional in the end (even though you are simply defending yourself). Only post factual information, as needed, about your upcoming events, or to clarify unusual circumstances that occured at your track (such as UCS Thursday night). I know what people say on these various forums can be hurtful but, stay above the fray, promotors!!!!!!

Former Promotor Craig Stevens, who is glad he promoted before before Al Gore invented the internet and global warming!:)

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

Cecil, stopped by your pit last night,but you weren't around. Met your son seemed like a nice guy.

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

Where you at the same race I was? Seriously I believe thats the dumbest post I have ever seen. If you left that show and had that many complaints, you should not go to races.

The track was prepared better than any track I have been to all year, racing was fantastic on a beautiful night. Kudos to Dave and his entire staff for the best night of racing I have seen all year. The midgets are so fun to watch they are just incredible. Great run by Darland who schooled Bland a bit but this Jeff Bland guy is making me a fan of his everytime I see him race.

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

First of All, Sat Night was some of the best racing I've seen at the Burg in a while.

Now to reply to "Dyno Don's" Post. I do believe that it was stated that the "Manditory" 10 minute intermission was an USAC rule. Having a 3rd class running is something that the burg has always done.....great open wheel night!!!
How many other tracks can you go to on $20 and have the GREAT racing that you saw!!!! As for the clean up's, yes they were a little slow, they too are getting used to the new banking and will get it figured out. So what if it ran a little late...If you can't stay up that late, either don't come or go home before the last feature !!!! :angry-smiley-007::censor: Dave Thanks for a great night of racing and a great new track. Keep up the great work!!!!!!!!!! :applaud:

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

Sorry I missed you, Brent. I hope Brad was civil to you! He's extremely frustrated right now. We're obviously struggling on the track. Thanks for stopping by! Try again the next time you're down there. I'm usually there but yesterday I played in a golf scramble and got there fairly late and, I spent quite a bit of time on the back straight between races. Hope to meet you!!!!

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

I think you are assuming that all the spectators come from Dearborn Co. There lots of people that come from great distances.

I know a couple that came from Ft. Wayne. If the show is over, they are home by 1:00 AM, if the show is over at 12:30, it is 4:00AM.
What time would you like to get home. Also there was a pastor there that had a service on Sunday, he was from Marion. How do you think the service went?

If every one attending was from Dearborn Co., a late finish would be no big deal, but with people coming from many miles away a reasonable finish time would be a god send.

And think about this. I can go to the Indy 500, get there 3 hours early and still get out in less than 7 hours. That is something The 'Burg can not say.

As for how many other tracks I can go to and see great racing for $20.

Lets see. Gas City, Bloomington, Kokomo, and THAT. And by the way THAT only runs one class.

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

I think you are assuming that all the spectators come from Dearborn Co. There lots of people that come from great distances.

I know a couple that came from Ft. Wayne. If the show is over at 10:30, they are home by 1:00 AM, if the show is over at 12:30, it is 4:00AM.
What time would you like to get home. Also there was a pastor there that had a service on Sunday, he was from Marion. How do you think the service went?

If every one attending was from Dearborn Co., a late finish would be no big deal, but with people coming from many miles away a reasonable finish time would be a god send.

And think about this. I can go to the Indy 500, get there 3 hours early and still get out in less than 7 hours. That is something The 'Burg can not say.

As for how many other tracks I can go to and see great racing for $20.

Lets see. Gas City, Bloomington, Kokomo, and THAT. And by the way THAT only runs one class.

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

Don, Yes we ran a bit late, had alot of red flags that night. The midget feature was over at 11pm and by the time winners circle festivities was over is was 11:30 or later. Then we had our sprint feature and some reds and it was over around 12:00 am. We try very hard to run a fast program and be done at a early time, but sometimes things just don't work out that way. Sorry for keeping some of you too late and we will work on the problem. We always do.
Sincerly, Dave (Bozo) Rudisell

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

Thanks Dave. You are always a class act. The Lawrenceburg Speedway is a classy facility and is always a great place to visit. By the way Dave, Dyno Don even called the people of Anderson, IN. a bunch of "Rubes" because there was an intermission at a Sunday afternoon race at Anderson Speedway. Don't take any offense; just consider the source. Guido Rueben

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

We had a great time on Saturday (even though our Mini-Sprint was in the trailer after hot-laps with a motor problem).

The USAC Midgets put on a great show. The racing was fabulous. I was really impressed with the way those guys handle their cars.

The program did end late but any experienced race fan would know that when you have three classes and that many cars the racing is going the end late.

Heck, it was Saturday night and the beer was $2.50 a bottle! Even with a broken race car we managed to enjoy ourselves......and anyone that's ever watched the action from the stands when you are supposed to be on the track would know that ain't easy!

Oh Well.....I am off to FOZ to see about getting a motor repaired. We will be back at the 'Burg on Labor Day. Where the heck did the summer go?

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

For Dyno Don,
Went to Kokomo last night and they had more than 2 classes. Even took time to mess with the track with the tractor and roller a few times. I walked out of the grandstands when they took Stanbroughs car off on the hook, got in my car at 11:52 (I by the way live in Dearborn Co.) I walked in my house at 2:35 this AM. I guess I should be bitchin because the race wasn't over earlier and I got home late. But instead I would like to say WOW! that was some good racing and I am sad to know that school is starting and I can't make that trip to Kokomo anymore on Sunday nights until next year. Kokomo thanks for a great night of racing and a great porkchop sandwich. Bob Bressert :applaud:

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

Bob,

You better quit staying out so late and start getting your butt in the school schedule mode our kids are depending on you! What did you think of the midgets saturday?

Shane

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

Shane,
I hate to admit this but Sat I went to Florence and watch the tin tops run the North South 100 with my brother in law. Was a pretty good show, by the way, I am going to school right now. Midgets put on a very good show last night at Kokomo. later Bob

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

I thought it was a great night. Track did not get dusty and someone finally figured out how to run up next to the wall --- the fast way around. Wonder if Jeff Bland Jr., will try that line next week after being shown it by one of the rim riding masters.

I left after the sprint feature and was stunned to find it was 1 a.m. when I was climbing in the car. But then, I didn't look at a clock all night either. I just enjoyed the races.
Jim Morrison

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

I am convinced that according to Dyno Don you HAVE to be a Sprint or Midget driver to be a race car driver. If you drive a Mod, Super Stock, Late Model, Mini Sprint or anything else...you are lower than scum.

And I didnt see it being mandatory in the rules and bylaws of Indiana Midget Week that you HAD to have just two classes.

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

It was not about an intermission, but putting figure 8 cars on the track.Those cars were puking smoke and dropping oil.

It was a Midget race and those cars could have caused a serious accident, they had no buisness being there for safety reason.

The Rube crack was about the people that like that kind of racing, ala Speedrome.Take a visit there and you know what I am talking about.

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

TWO THINGS TO THINK ABOUT 1. Host the midgets and sprint cars together(usac
2. get a date now for next year

You have a great opportunity to showcase your track and it is great !!!!
Start now getting a sponsor and make a big weekend out of it..
Raise the purse and your car count will raise to off set it and the stands will fill up
you can have your NATIONALS right there in Lawerenceburg you have the track
the hotels etc. get some of that lottery money from the tourism board there
and start a big event......
there is Knoxville, Belleville, Chilibowl and many more bring a big one to southern
Indiana
keep up the good work!!!!

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

Hey there is room for everybody, but just do not mix classes.

If you like Mods, Super Stocks or Bombers or what ever, have at it. Let them run on their own track in front of their own fans.

My gripe is that I pay extra bucks to see a National USAC Show, why should I have sit through a bunch of slugs.

If I go to a weekly show at what ever track you want to choose, I have got no ***** with Mods, Bombers or what ever. It is part of the show.

When I go to an USAC show and pay extra bucks, I want to see the stars of USAC and not watch local stuff while the USAC stars sit in the pits.

There is a place for every division and a field of 40 to 60 USAC cars is not a place for local classes.

I guess the local track fans do not realize how good we have it in Indiana, they think that they are part of a USAC show. In other states USAC is more of a big deal than in our own back yard.

See my post about Bloomington Speedway.

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

I GUESS THAT USAC IS JUST A GUEST OF THE LOCAL TRACKS --- MY MY ---:moon:

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

Is it beyond comprehension that to some folks the IDEAL show would be sprints and modifieds? Or to someone else midgets, winged mini sprints and bombers?
Some of the best racing I've ever seen featured cars with (gasp) fenders. I love sprint cars, but I also like and enjoy and want to see other classes.
You see, it's not all about YOU! Your opinions, likes and dislikes are not necessarily shared by everyone else (thank goodness).
I see where you don't like to be called names (grumpy old man), but you have no problem calling other racers slugs or a promoter a Bozo. I've got several names that I think fit you to a tee, but in consideration of the rules of this board, I'll refrain from using them.

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

I have been to the Speedrome so I guess that makes me a "Rube" in your mind? Dyno Don you are one of a handful of guests on this board who would ***** if they hung you with a new rope. I can't imagine what it would be like to be you. In your mind everyone in the world is out to make your life miserable. Perhaps you should count your blessings and realize there are more serious issues than you getting home late from a great race. You might even consider staying home more and getting caught up on your sleep.

Signed

Vinnie Reuben

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

The only complaint I have is the safety crew -- being in medical profession you need to take time, but when the driver is out and OK -- the bald MAN in the safety track you do do not have to parade around ---- get out of the way.:moon:my opinion of him)

Other than that GREAT RACING, I am planning on coming back the 22nd.

See you then.

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

WOW !!!! The bald man. Whocares that was mean !!!!!!!! Dyno Don All i can say is if you are that miserable with all the support classes then stay home and wait for videos to come out .Just incase the videos have support classes on them .You can use the FF button . :crying:

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

Dyno Don, since it seem's all you ever do is *****, I'll take the liberty and post this for the GREAT Lawrenceburg staff/Management.

This was posted at the pit gate at the old Sharon Speedway, for Dyno Don and the likes of, .....Here Goes:

1) It may be smooth
2) It may be rough
3) It may be dry
4) It may be wet
5) It may be dustless
6) It may be dusty
7) It may go smoothly
8) It may be con-fusing
9) It may go SLOW
10) It might go fast
11) It might rain
12) THE SHOW MAY RUN LATE
13) You may like the Man-age-ment
14) you may NOT like the Man-age-ment
15) You may like the rules
16) You may NOT like the rules
17) It just might be the BEST damn show ever

If you feel like you can't run/spectate under
these conditions, save us the trouble, AND
STAY THE HELL HOME.....
The Management...(I added, the hell & spectate:wink)

Mr. Rudisell, Like I told you in the parking lot before I left for Kokomo Sunday morning. Don't let some off these boneheads on here that ***** about everything, ruin your day. As far as i'm concerned you have one of the top 5 race tracks in the COUNTRY and you run that SOB the way you want. Let them go to a movie, that way they know exactly what time they'll be home in bed.

OK enough of that, I just walked in the door from a 10 1/2 hour drive from Kokomo and about a 1700 mile round trip. I have not one complaint, between the racing, the party AND the people, it was another great trip to Indiana. Thanks to All:respect:...

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

I can't understand why a 'race fan' would not want to watch up-and-coming drivers in other classes. That kid you are watching in a mini-sprint might be the next big-name in sprint, midgets.....or dare I say, NASCAR.

Geeesh......just enjoy the racing, no matter what the class and stop worrying what time it is.

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

The only issue I really had about Saturday night was the length of time to get one car off the track if it required a wrecker. Obviously the banking of the track is causing issues for the big wreckers. But what I don't understand is why they have to have half their family hanging off the back of the trucks to go get the cars? On one of the wreckers there were two young girls that were dressed like they were going to the mall perched up there all night. I think the driver goes slow so he doesnt throw them off the back going to get a car. During some of those yellows they should have thrown the red instead of the sprints idling around burning fuel for so long.

I think it would honestly help if the extras running around in the push trucks and wreckers stayed put while the needed people respond to what is needed.

L-Burg has some of the most knowledable safety workers around and Bobby and his crew get kudos for that. Unfortunately I've had to experience their help before but knew I was in good hands.

Re: The Burg Saturday 8/9
 

Jake,
Agree with you on the number of people in the wrecker. It's not a problem restricted to Lawrenceburg, but one that's tough for a promoter to control.

You might consider another possibility also, the longer it takes the wrecker to get to the car, the more time people have to read the name of the company on the side of the door.
When I worked in Greensburg, we actually had a wrecker company that would observe where our photographer was taking pictures from and try to position himself so the name of the business would be in the picture. There were even times where the photographer moved and the wrecker driver repositioned his vehicle.
Jim Morrison