Kyle Larson's new team
 

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What a class kid. Giving back to this sport at his young age. Hope the older drivers who have made it will learn from him. Kyle is the real deal for the dirt racer and fans.

Lynn

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Its a great deal for a much deserving guy like Shane Stewart, but I wish it was a USAC deal instead.

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Stewart has pretty well always been a wing guy as far as I know so it makes sense from that perspective. Also, if Kyle wants to run a sprinter sometimes I bet Ganassi won't let him drive without a wing. Obviously, with Tony's wreck a driver can always get hurt but non-wing racing is probably a no-no.

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Originally Posted by oppweld:
Its a great deal for a much deserving guy like Shane Stewart, but I wish it was a USAC deal instead.

I would love to see kyle have a silver crown team as well as a world of outlaw deal.

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Well lets see WoO just payed out $15,000 for 12th in points. What does USAC pay (guessing now where close to that)? As much as I love non-wing when it comes to possibly breaking even on the season wing racing is the way to go. the Outlaws never race for less then $5000 to win with the majority of their races paying $10,000. not to mention just to make the A its like taking 2nd or 3rd at a weekly non-wing show.

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I could be wrong, but I think the minimum purse for an WOO event is $10,000 to win and $800 to start! With several that pay $25,000 to win (and even a few $50,000 here and there). My guess is the USAC championship pays less to win then several of the WOO single races (seems like one of the drivers recently posted that the usac driver and owner each got $10,000 which = a mid week WOO event winners purse). WOO have a few TV shows which brings in bigger sponsors, the WOO are always playing in front of a full house!! Is the racing better? IMO no, but WOO markets its brand much better than their competition.

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Cool..........Shane Stewart has always kind of done a true outlaw type deal and he car run the wheels off of a car. Excellent driver choice!

Larson would not be in NASCAR without USAC. The owners don't look at wing guys. The real money to be won in USAC is the potential NASCAR contract. Also wish he would field a Silver Crown and hire me!

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Originally Posted by ThrowbackRacingTeam:
Larson would not be in NASCAR without USAC. The owners don't look at wing guys. The real money to be won in USAC is the potential NASCAR contract. Also wish he would field a Silver Crown and hire me!

As a driver, the opportunities might be better through USAC, but as an owner it's a no brainer. Why do you think Stewart and Kahne have hardly any presence in USAC anymore (Yes, Stewart has strong sprint car and Silver Crown teams, but it's a far cry from what he used to have in USAC) , yet have 3-4 car stables in the WoO? Money, sponsorship, and exposure just isn't there in USAC like it is winged racing.

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Originally Posted by Thyfault925:
Money, sponsorship, and exposure just isn't there in USAC like it is winged racing.

Until USAC goes to a season as long as the Outlaws all over the U.S. and Canada like WoO...and for some reason I dont see that happening. :24:

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Let's face it. USAC is the minor leagues compared to the Outlaws for reasons previously stated. Give me a non-wing race anytime over a wing race but comparing USAC to the Outlaws is apples to oranges. Steve Kinser is doing his swan song tour in Australia this winter and the crowds will be HUGE to see Steve, I bet even bigger than ever. If Steve would announce before the 2014 Outlaw season started that this year was his last tickets would be hard to come by at many, many venues. Unfortunately, name one USAC driver retiring that could generate any interest like that. Diehard non-wing fans would show up but the Outlaws, and Steve and Sammy, have the brand. Plus, Steve has been around for about 40 years, almost as long as Sammy.

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A couple of thoughts: 1) The Outlaws have gone to a lower purse for a mid week show. It is $6,000 to win for a mid week show, not $10,000.
2) Many people on this board want their cake and eat it to. You want all of the USAC drivers to race USAC but also show up for all of the local shows. You don't want USAC to implement the non-complete rule for race nights like the Outlaws do. You complain when you have to pay the $25 for a USAC show because you pay $12 for a regular show. Yet, the Outlaws are charging $35 and above for tickets. You want it so all of the local teams have a chance in USAC, but all of the major Outlaw teams are well financed.

Larson has always talked about an Outlaw team and really never talked about a USAC team. I was hoping that with all of the success he had with the midgets that he would have gone that direction.

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Originally Posted by Flatrightrear:
Let's face it. USAC is the minor leagues compared to the Outlaws for reasons previously stated. Give me a non-wing race anytime over a wing race but comparing USAC to the Outlaws is apples to oranges. Steve Kinser is doing his swan song tour in Australia this winter and the crowds will be HUGE to see Steve, I bet even bigger than ever. If Steve would announce before the 2014 Outlaw season started that this year was his last tickets would be hard to come by at many, many venues. Unfortunately, name one USAC driver retiring that could generate any interest like that. Diehard non-wing fans would show up but the Outlaws, and Steve and Sammy, have the brand. Plus, Steve has been around for about 40 years, almost as long as Sammy.

People told me USAC was small potatoes while the World of Outlaws was the way to go and USAC would be out of the sprint car business before long. They were telling me that in 1980. I guess it is some of the same mindset that said in 1955 that Elvis Presley is no Eddie Fisher and would be a has-been in a year.:3:

I don't care about crowds of people in Australia, how iconic and what brands Steve and Sammy are or who will have the most celebrated farewell tours. I do care that my memory bank is full the many wonderful highlights that Dave Darland has given me over the years. If the WoO is racing in very close proximity to me while DD, Bryan, Tracy and company/USAC is racing at Kokomo the same evening I would not give it a second thought about making the 300 mile round trip to see my favorites in USAC run.

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another reason for not attending woo shows/ nobody goes to em anymore, its always too crowded!