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okokok 7/11/08 5:07 AM

Let's change USAC Sprintweek Schedule
 
For 2 years...

Wed Thurs - Lawrenceburg
Fri Sat - Gas City

Now..

Let's switch the dates for the next 2 years.

It's only fair!!

Lawrenceburg is the important track! It is located in a metro area, 1st class, they deserve to get the Premium dates! The dates hurt Burg attendance.

or, Restructure the schedule so that Lawrenceburg gets the first Fri, Sat , and , Gas City get the 2nd Fri, Sat.

Oh, Bloomington would not like this....

so, do as I said - swap Gas City and Lawrenceburg next 2 years.

cecil98 7/11/08 7:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by okokok (Post 51291)
For 2 years...

Wed Thurs - Lawrenceburg
Fri Sat - Gas City

Now..

Let's switch the dates for the next 2 years.

It's only fair!!

Lawrenceburg is the important track! It is located in a metro area, 1st class, they deserve to get the Premium dates! The dates hurt Burg attendance.

or, Restructure the schedule so that Lawrenceburg gets the first Fri, Sat , and , Gas City get the 2nd Fri, Sat.

Oh, Bloomington would not like this....

so, do as I said - swap Gas City and Lawrenceburg next 2 years.

I agree with the above, that Lawrenceburg should get serious consideration from USAC for being the featured track in the ISW series. However, because I live less than 20min away, my objectivity may come into question here. I guess I'll have to recuse myself from this debate?

Dick Monahan 7/11/08 7:44 AM

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As someone who comes 1000 miles for the show, I'd like to see them switch weekends, so there are only 2 days off in the middle. 4 days off is too many, so we only stay for the first weekend.

Barney 7/11/08 8:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Monahan (Post 51301)
As someone who comes 1000 miles for the show, I'd like to see them switch weekends, so there are only 2 days off in the middle. 4 days off is too many, so we only stay for the first weekend.

:thumbThis would never work as it makes to much sense.:angry-smiley-007:

767 7/11/08 8:24 AM

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don't waste your time. The burge might be a nice facility, but the management at gas city is light years ahead of the burge.

Pushtruck 7/11/08 8:36 AM

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ISW has traditionally been one race at a different track in Indiana each night. Because of the DA mess, Gas City & L-burg took on the extra dates lost by DA's tracks last year. Don't be surprised if Terre Haute, Twin Cities and maybe even Brownstown are considered for shows next year and the double header format being eliminated.

I like the one race at a different track each night. The big question has always been: Who gets what nights?

agar 7/11/08 8:50 AM

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I would almost bet a years pay that Terre Haute will be there next year but I would also think that the 2 date tracks could stay that way just give Terre Haute one of those open dates

but I would split the 2 dates up one Track to start the week and one to end it

just a thought

D.O. 7/11/08 9:54 AM

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Wednesday - Camp
Thursday - Gas City
Friday - Bloomington
Saturday - Lawrenceburg
Sunday - Kokomo

Monday - Sprint Week Picnic @ IMS
Tuesday - Brownstown
Wednesday - Liberty
Thursday - North Vernon
Friday - Haubstadt
Saturday - Terre Haute

Michael#81 7/11/08 10:07 AM

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I'm with D.O. on this one. That would make for an awesome sprint week.

The only change I would make is the last two shows. Keep Haubstadt on the last Saturday Night.

luvsprints 7/11/08 10:21 AM

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Of course none of you are crew members who desperately need a few days off to recoup. Try getting home at 2-3am every morning after cleaning of cars and being back at shop by 8-9am every morning to get going again.

For drivers and crews the 3 day break is truly needed.

Jerry Shaw 7/11/08 10:26 AM

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I think D.O. has come up with what would be a great Sprint Week, with one exception. And that is North Vernon. As long as DA still owns the place (or is affiliated with it in any way) they just can't go there. Because if they do and something bad happens, then they have nobody but themselves to blame. But, it's probably a moot point, since I think USAC has completely washed their hands of DA, already, anyway.

Jerry

D.O. 7/11/08 10:34 AM

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Give the Fleetwoods a break!!! So DA owns the track but the Fleetwoods are running it without DA telling them what to do. Maybe Terry Englin could book the date. Terry always ran a tight show with no support classes.
:dologob:


Sure it would be tough on the teams but it is SprintWeek the biggest event of their year.

wingsareforcheaters 7/11/08 10:49 AM

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I think that you have to consider track locations. You don't want to have to zig zag across the whole state.

Thur -Brownstown or Union County
Fri - Lawrenceburg
Sat - Gas City
Sun - Kokomo

Wed-Kamp
Thur - Bloomington
Fri - Terre Haute
Sat - Haubstadt

I would rather have TH last, but for travel convenience this is what I would do.

racefan20 7/11/08 11:23 AM

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I think THAT would be more willing to take a midweek date than Bloomington. Gas City and Bloomington will always have Fridays and they deserve to. DO, I gotta disagree as long as DA owns it(North Vernon) then he profits from it. It has nothing to do with the Fleetwoods, they put theirselves in that position by dealing with him.

sprinter25 7/11/08 11:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by luvsprints (Post 51320)
Of course none of you are crew members who desperately need a few days off to recoup. Try getting home at 2-3am every morning after cleaning of cars and being back at shop by 8-9am every morning to get going again.

For drivers and crews the 3 day break is truly needed.

Having crewed on a car during NARC SprintWeek during the early and mid 90's, I can personally attest that ANY sprint week is murder on the crew... but, somehow, it all gets done...as long as there are no major crashes or blow ups....7races at 6 different tracks in 7 days....some as far as 200 miles apart....Sleep - well, that was pretty much optional ....

But you're so glad when it's all over....and one team I was on even won a NARC sprintweek championship!

Eatin Dirt 7/11/08 12:21 PM

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Just a thought but as I sit here and look at this I notice that Kamp, Kokomo and Gas City are all 3 in the Northern part of the state. Why not run the 3 of them in some sort of order then make your drop to the south. With fuel prices the way they are you could save some miles. Also only my opinion, but I would love to see Twin Cities back on the schedule. The racing was always very good there. I can still remember several years back watching my 1st ISW race there and Rip Williams and his crazy slides into the turns. Oh Well, have a great rest of the Sprint Weeks. Bob

jerseysprintnut 7/11/08 12:36 PM

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Yes, being from Jersey, I have only done either the first or the second half the 3 times I have done sprint week. I will be out on Wed. to do the 2nd half and I wish they would put the halves closer together. Its almost like 2 separate weeks. The crews do need a break so a 2 day break with one being a make-up night would work. (crews got a break on the RO!!!)

Or how about having the Mon. off, racing Tues/Wed. somewhere, then Thurs off again in the middle?

Also, the schedule must be travel friendly for all. and should be on the reg. nights the tracks run (Gas City = Fri. L.Burg = Sat. ect...)

D.O. I like the idea behind your schedule.

Come on Wed. Hope everyone has a great enjoyable week and drive safe. Please watch for the crazy ones from PA :moon:as they tend to enjoy their cold ones a lot!!!:wink

Later JERSEY

racefan20 7/11/08 12:50 PM

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Jersey we had one Pa fan(I'll mention no names but his IOW name is a tree :D ) who was face down before qualifying Wednesday night

Jerry Shaw 7/11/08 12:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by D.O. (Post 51324)
Give the Fleetwoods a break!!! So DA owns the track but the Fleetwoods are running it without DA telling them what to do. Maybe Terry Englin could book the date. Terry always ran a tight show with no support classes.
:dologob:


Sure it would be tough on the teams but it is SprintWeek the biggest event of their year.

I have nothing against the Fleetwoods. My home track used to be where the Sprint Week finale was held, each year. It's now not on the schedule, because of Dave Allison. That had to be a tough decision for USAC to make. They need to think just as long and hard before they reward him by putting money back in his pocket, again.

Jerry

T&A Racing 7/11/08 1:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pushtruck (Post 51305)
ISW has traditionally been one race at a different track in Indiana each night. Because of the DA mess, Gas City & L-burg took on the extra dates lost by DA's tracks last year. Don't be surprised if Terre Haute, Twin Cities and maybe even Brownstown are considered for shows next year and the double header format being eliminated.

I like the one race at a different track each night. The big question has always been: Who gets what nights?

I am a little indifferent toward to 2 day shows although it helps right now on gas. However, I would love THAT and North Vernon back on the shedule. I would even like Putnamville back if they could work it out.

racefan20 7/11/08 1:33 PM

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Hey Dave is someone hauling your broken butt up the stairs Sunday night? :D

Charles Nungester 7/11/08 1:37 PM

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Leave it alone!

The only thing I might change is add Terre Haulte for a finally on a sunday afternoon.

Chuck, who don't even want the format changed :)

backitin 7/11/08 4:19 PM

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If any racetrack deserves two races during Sprintweek, it's Kokomo. The racing is the best in the state, Haubstadt included. Unless you like slide jobs and crossovers, one after another, for 30 laps straight.
I agree with the people who've posted something about trying to keep the dates in some sort of geographical order. I even think you could get half of the tracks on their normal nights, like this:

Wed: Lawrenceburg
Thurs: N. Vernon
Fri: Bloomington
Sat: Haubstadt
Sun (Day show): Terre Haute
Mon: Off
Tues: Off
Wed: Paragon/Putnamville
Thurs: Liberty
Fri: Gas City
Sat: Kamp
Sun: Kokomo

Charles Nungester 7/11/08 4:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by racefan20 (Post 51347)
Jersey we had one Pa fan(I'll mention no names but his IOW name is a tree :D ) who was face down before qualifying Wednesday night

That evergreen was still standing, Barely at 4am :)
Thursday he's teamed up with a Aussie who was happy to see everyone :)

Great times!
Chuck

Bill Gardner 7/11/08 5:30 PM

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About sprint week being tough on drivers and crew members... I wrenched on Brian Hayden's sprint car when he was still driving. Yeah... you're right sprint week is tough but if you know how to manage your time... you'll be just fine.

For the most part... we had a 2 man team. Brian and myself did all the maintenance on the cars. We worked when we needed too, thrashed after the crashes, and slept when we could.

The bottomline is sprint week is the biggest and best part of the Indiana sprint car season and to expand it only makes sense.

riskybrisky5 7/11/08 7:30 PM

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I say make them all 2 day events for Indiana sprint week. 10 days and the 5 highest bidding Indiana race tracks get the bookings. But my preference would be Lawrenceburg, Gas City, Terre Haute, Bloomington with Haubstaut the final two nights.:thumb

riskybrisky5 7/11/08 7:31 PM

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Great to see you last night Bill.

Bill Gardner 7/11/08 8:07 PM

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Kevin, The long road to getting healthy became a little shorter last night. It was great to see not only you but all the other great folks that I was able to chat with.

I am already looking forward to going to Boswell for the first time.

Gregg Obst 7/11/08 11:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by racefan20 (Post 51347)
Jersey we had one Pa fan(I'll mention no names but his IOW name is a tree :D ) who was face down before qualifying Wednesday night

As a fellow PA fan, this surprises me not in the least. :rolling

Bill, very glad to see you are on the mend and able to make it to the races. :thumb

HARFprez 7/12/08 4:59 AM

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One thing D.O. mentioned in his suggestion that everyone has let slip by is a "thank you" picnic/party sponsored by the fans of ISW to honor the drivers and crews. Let's give them a well deserved day of rest, a plate full of healthy Indiana food (something deep fried with biscuits and apple butter), a cold beverage, a soft folding chair, and a pat on the back from us fans for all their hard work. i know it will be more time out of their busy schedule, but everyone deserves a little :applaud:at times. count HARF in as an early sponsor of this great idea. DO, one of the greatest things you do during your "race fests" is to have all the drivers and cars in the infield and to let the "fans" meet the drivers and see the cars up close. seeing the smiles on the kids faces (some of the kids aged 55) only helps grow our favorite sport. sometimes the only way we know our favorite driver is the color of his helmet and number on a car as they race by. personalize our great sprint car drivers and i know the sport grows, that's why our Banquet is sold out every year. bob.:checkered:

HARFprez 7/12/08 5:05 AM

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oh...and my only complaint about Sprint Weeks is that i don't get to go to every race, so if it's possible, could we hold all the races at 16th St. Speedway...it's only 15 minutes away from home. all the best to our great competitors:applaud:, there's nothing like sprint cars on dirt! bob:checkered:

Dwight Clock 7/12/08 7:03 AM

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The picnic at IMS is a great idea. The Speedway offers special Grounds Tours during this time and I'm sure that I could work out discounts for a large enough group. On a Grounds Tour you would get to go inside the Media Center, on Victory Podium, inside the Pagoda, to Timing & Scoring, inside a luxury suite atop the Formula 1 garages, tour the garage area, take a lap around the track stopping at the start/finish line for pictures, and be given great detail about what transpires at all of these places. Museum admission is included in the price of a Grounds Tour and it would be a great part of your day at the Speedway.

clayton92fan 7/12/08 12:55 PM

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If there is change to be made, I agree that they should run in no paticular order a "north" schedule and a "south" schedule. Maybe 1 year start with Terre Haute Thursday,Bloomington Friday, The Burg Saturday, Haubstadt Sunday. Then move North with Kamp Thursday, Gas City Friday and finish with Kokomo on Saturday. I know thats not Kokomo's usual nite, but that would allow everyone a day of travel back home before going back to work on Monday. Then the next year switch north and south in order leaving Terre Haute the opening nite since it is the most centrally located in the state , then Gas city Friday, Kamp on Saturday, and Kokomo on Sunday.That in my opinion would cut down on some of the travel expense with gas heading toward $5 a gallon.Oh yeah throw in the H.A.R.F. picnic on Monday and it would be awesome.Wasn't sure where to fit Brownstown in there, but with the quality of racing there this year they should be included somehow to make the 8 race schedule complete. Any thoughts??

D.O. 7/12/08 1:29 PM

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My idea thought #2

:greenflag: week 1

Wednesday - Camp
Thursday - Gas City
Friday - Bloomington
Saturday - Paragon
Sunday - Kokomo

:greenflag: week 2

Monday - Sprint Week Picnic @ IMS
Teams work out of haulers on grounds in the garages.
Picnic behind IMS Tower on the bricks.

:redflag: Tuesday - Day OFF !
Teams still get to work in the IMS Garages.

:greenflag:
Wednesday - Brownstown
Thursday - North Vernon
Friday - Haubstadt
Saturday - Lawrenceburg
Sunday - Terre Haute Finale

:checkered: Hots @ 2:00 pm
Quals @ 4:00pm
Rework Track for racing @ 7:00 pm
Indiana SprintWeek Awards @ 9:30 pm
All done go home @ 10:00 pm

Start early so fans can get home.
Quick awards on track. Quick Fireworks Quick out the gate.

Just an idea, everything makes travel sense, day off for teams, Picnic @ Indy, teams have a place to work and fan frendly.

:dologob:

Dyno Don 7/12/08 2:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by D.O. (Post 51315)
Wednesday - Camp
Thursday - Gas City
Friday - Bloomington
Saturday - Lawrenceburg
Sunday - Kokomo

Monday - Sprint Week Picnic @ IMS
Tuesday - Brownstown
Wednesday - Liberty
Thursday - North Vernon
Friday - Haubstadt
Saturday - Terre Haute

You need to have The 'Burg during the week. Hotel rooms are out of sight on the weekends because of the Casino.

Flatrightrear 7/12/08 4:34 PM

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When "the evergreen" was face down was he by himself or with someone? Inquiring minds want to know!

sdcheek 7/12/08 5:09 PM

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I agree, if you have the Burg on the weekend, no one will be able to afford to go. I know its a catch 22 but I enjoy the two weekdays at the Burg. JMO

SHORTBUS 7/12/08 5:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by backitin (Post 51368)
if any racetrack deserves two races during sprintweek, it's kokomo. The racing is the best in the state, haubstadt included. Unless you like slide jobs and crossovers, one after another, for 30 laps straight.
I agree with the people who've posted something about trying to keep the dates in some sort of geographical order. I even think you could get half of the tracks on their normal nights, like this:

Wed: Lawrenceburg
thurs: N. Vernon
fri: Bloomington
sat: Haubstadt
sun (day show): Terre haute
mon: Off
tues: Off
wed: Paragon/putnamville
thurs: Liberty
fri: Gas city
sat: Kamp
sun: Kokomo

no day shows period

backitin 7/12/08 6:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SHORTBUS (Post 51531)
no day shows period

You're right. It wouldn't be a good idea to get the teams into their off days early, get the fans home at a decent hour on a work night, to see something different, or to honor the past in any way. Exactly.

SHORTBUS 7/12/08 6:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by backitin (Post 51534)
You're right. It wouldn't be a good idea to get the teams into their off days early, get the fans home at a decent hour on a work night, to see something different, or to honor the past in any way. Exactly.

EVIDENTLY YOU WOULD LIKE TO SIT IN A DUSTY RUBBER DOWN TRACK NOT BEING ABLE TO EVEN SEE THE #s ON THE CARS.THERE IS NEVER A GOOD DAYTIME RACE IN THIS DAY & AGE. ( TO EACH HIS OWN) BUT I WOULD STILL BE THERE (BECAUSE IM A RACE FAN ) :Steer:Steer


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