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I am really considering going to the four crown this year, as this will be my first trip over to Eldora, any comments or suggestions?

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Be there for Thursday night for the Hewitt Roast Hear Bob Hampshire roast Jack

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bring goggle's :2:

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Save Your Money! Go see weeky show at kokomo or the burg The Big "E" should be called the big Dump

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Originally Posted by Dick Mahoney:
Be there for Thursday night for the Hewitt Roast Hear Bob Hampshire roast Jack

I am going to the roast and to The WoO show, because the track will be prepared for The WoO. The USAC show is still pending because of the fiasco they had in April.

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Eldora is a fantastic facility and a great place to see a race when the track is prepped right.

Unfortunately, the last several shows I have seen at the place have been atrociously dusty, culminating with the spring race this year which had to be called off due to abysmal track prep. I am not planning on going back anytime soon....

Still, I hope the 4 Crown turns out to be fantastic this year. That might give me confidence to head back to the Big E for some shows next year.

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The Track was awesome at the last non-wing race... The 4 crown is a great race.... the is normally slick because if all the racecars and starting early but its is worth coming to! The april race was a joke but the has been fixed and better then before all year!

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Cant be that far from good.. because the Midgets and Silvercrown are going to qualify in between the WOO show on friday.. then rest of 4 crown sat.. If i read that correctly.. Should be a helluva show..

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Originally Posted by t-dog:
Save Your Money! Go see weeky show at kokomo or the burg The Big "E" should be called the big Dump

As a point of reference, Kokomo runs on Sunday nights and their regular season will be concluded by 4 crown weekend. Also, Lawrenceburg has a TBA on the schedule for that Saturday night, so who knows what they will be running.

The last non-winged show that we attended at Eldora (7/31/10) was very good. The track was racey and the guys put on a great show. They also ran late models as well and the track held up nicely. My hope is that the 4 crown weekend will be as good a show as well.:6:

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Bring an Oxygen supplied full-face respirator!! I wasn't going but me and the misses recieved our respirators today in the mail. :2:

I honestly believe after last years 4-crown and the fiasco in April, the track should be good. ( I hope)

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I've been back since April and the track has been fine. If midget and silver crown qualifying are moving to Friday that will certainly help.

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I am going....It is a premiere event....all the complainers about the dust....here is a little advice....check the flags when you get there and put the wind at your back....or rent a suite.... just sayin....

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Not to mention the addition of Little E this year. A 1/7th mile kart track, and a 1/4 midget track inside of it. The weekend of the 4 Crown will be the inuagural USAC 1/4 midget dirt nationals.

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Love the 4 Crown race, it was better when it was a 2 day deal, modifieds even put on a good show. But 1 day NW will allow me to skip the motel bill. Going to try & make it back this year. Bring Goggles or a helmet as the last time we dogged rocks. Got hit inside my right leg with a hugh clump mud. Couple inches to the left I would be singing up front w/ the gals - ouch.

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I've found racetracks to be like movies, everyone has a different view of what they are like.

I haven't been to Eldora this year, so I couldn't comment on the dust. Just remember some of these posters are never happy.

Get a pizzaburger, walk through the love tunnel and be grateful to see two days of racing at the end of the season. The winters suck way worse then being at a dusty racetrack.

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Originally Posted by 9racing:
because the Midgets and Silvercrown are going to qualify in between the WOO show on friday.. then rest of 4 crown sat..

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The makeup event for the April show was some of the best racing I've seen @ Eldora without the wings. Track was wet and fast all night and got real racey for the feature. SOme of you peeps need to quit whining so much and just go enjoy a night of racing! I'll be there

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Originally Posted by 9racing:
because the Midgets and Silvercrown are going to qualify in between the WOO show on friday.. then rest of 4 crown sat..

:6:

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Eldora is a big dust bowl, and it's dry slick

Jud Larson no longer races there..........

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Originally Posted by Augie:
:6:

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Originally Posted by Tim Watson:
:6:

Wow! You two agree on something!

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If you don't run Friday night qualifing for midgets can you still run in saturdays show

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Originally Posted by STIDA.com:
I am going....It is a premiere event....all the complainers about the dust....here is a little advice....check the flags when you get there and put the wind at your back....or rent a suite.... just sayin....

I;m not worried bout the dust getting on me I worry bout being able to see the dam cars If I pay to see a race then I want to see it and a lot of races at Eldora you can;t see :8:

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Why is it that USAC has to be at the "Four Crown" for 2 days, but the WoO only has to show up on Friday? I'm sorry but I think Eldora management has totally F'ed up the "Four Crown". I hate to pile on, and this has nothing to do with USAC, but this has been stewing inside me for awhile now. This event is supposed to be a showcase of USAC's premiere divisions- I don't have a problem at all with WoO being a part of the event, just make them conform to the old format (2 Day show) that everyone loves! How many people that are going to the "Four Crown" this year, will be at another racetrack on Friday (ie. Gas City)? My guess is alot. Why can't people listen to their customers anymore?
I take a large group of people, who rarely go racing, with me to this event every year. Every year it seems like I'm "covering" for the track for some reason or another, in an attempt to keep my friends from becoming disenchanted. I like them coming with me, but it seems as the years go by, they come more and more because I want them to, instead of them simply loving the "Four Crown".
I know it sounds like I'm just spouting off, but I only typed this whole damned thing out because I care. I hope Eldora Speedway can get the Four Crown Nationals back to being one of the biggest events in the country.

Last i heard the friday deal isn't going to happen. But what do i know i just show up and wrench on the cars.
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From the Eldora website:


ELDORA/USAC ANNOUNCE LINE-UP CHANGE FOR ANNUAL FOUR CROWN

ROSSBURG, OH (July 30) – In an effort to present the annual Four Crown Nationals under the best possible track conditions, Eldora Speedway officials, in conjunction with officials from the United States Auto Club (USAC), have announced a change in this year’s format. This year’s event, the 30th annual, will be contested Friday and Saturday, September 24 & 25.

When the travelling World of Outlaw (WoO) Sprint Cars joined the popular weekend in 2007, the entire USAC portion of the Four Crown was moved to Saturday. Their busy schedule of Silver Crown, Sprint Car and Midget divisions necessitated a start in mid-afternoon, which often resulted in less than desirable daytime track conditions.

To avert that situation, the schedule has now been revamped to include the preliminary hot lap and time trial sessions for the USAC National Midget and Silver Crown divisions as part of the Friday line-up, in conjunction with the full WoO program.

That move will allow Saturday’s starting time slot to be moved back considerably and allow track crews ample time to prep the racing surface for USAC’s three major non-winged touring divisions. Saturday’s menu will include the hot laps, time trial runs and preliminary heats for the Sprint Cars, along with the Midget heats. B-Mains and feature races for each division will wind up the show.

Multiple satellite events are slated, including the Jack Hewitt charity roast on Thursday evening in the Eldora Ballroom and the traditional USAC autograph session on Saturday afternoon in the Eldora fanzone.

Another time honored tradition for the weekend is the appearance of the Vintage American Race Cars with their restored race cars on and off the track.

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Originally Posted by apexonephoto:
From the Eldora website:


ELDORA/USAC ANNOUNCE LINE-UP CHANGE FOR ANNUAL FOUR CROWN

ROSSBURG, OH (July 30) – In an effort to present the annual Four Crown Nationals under the best possible track conditions, Eldora Speedway officials, in conjunction with officials from the United States Auto Club (USAC), have announced a change in this year’s format. This year’s event, the 30th annual, will be contested Friday and Saturday, September 24 & 25.

When the travelling World of Outlaw (WoO) Sprint Cars joined the popular weekend in 2007, the entire USAC portion of the Four Crown was moved to Saturday. Their busy schedule of Silver Crown, Sprint Car and Midget divisions necessitated a start in mid-afternoon, which often resulted in less than desirable daytime track conditions.

To avert that situation, the schedule has now been revamped to include the preliminary hot lap and time trial sessions for the USAC National Midget and Silver Crown divisions as part of the Friday line-up, in conjunction with the full WoO program.

That move will allow Saturday’s starting time slot to be moved back considerably and allow track crews ample time to prep the racing surface for USAC’s three major non-winged touring divisions. Saturday’s menu will include the hot laps, time trial runs and preliminary heats for the Sprint Cars, along with the Midget heats. B-Mains and feature races for each division will wind up the show.

Multiple satellite events are slated, including the Jack Hewitt charity roast on Thursday evening in the Eldora Ballroom and the traditional USAC autograph session on Saturday afternoon in the Eldora fanzone.

Another time honored tradition for the weekend is the appearance of the Vintage American Race Cars with their restored race cars on and off the track.

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Originally Posted by 98arpy:
Wow! You two agree on something!

Augie and i agree on a lot of things, hell we only live about 2 miles apart. I like the Friday line up but i would much rather see the midgets or the silver crown cars run their entire show with timing, heats and feature events. Get one USAC division out of the way on Friday night so the guys who run more than one division don't have to scramble from car to car on Saturday plus it would save some laps on the track for Saturday, My first choice would be to see the midgets run all events on Friday with the WoO, then run the sprints and silver crown events on Saturday. Rember it's just an opinion so don't rip on me to hard guys. :5:

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Originally Posted by Tim Watson:
Augie and i agree on a lot of things, hell we only live about 2 miles apart. I like the Friday line up but i would much rather see the midgets or the silver crown cars run their entire show with timing, heats and feature events. Get one USAC division out of the way on Friday night so the guys who run more than one division don't have to scramble from car to car on Saturday plus it would save some laps on the track for Saturday, My first choice would be to see the midgets run all events on Friday with the WoO, then run the sprints and silver crown events on Saturday. Rember it's just an opinion so don't rip on me to hard guys. :5:

Hey short stuff :2: why would you want to force the WoO(and the extra days $$) down the throats of those of us who have no interest in the wings? Bring the damn mods or LM's back instead and do it the old way.

All I know is the midgets n. Crowns better hit the track early Friday while there's moisture to at least look for. It won't b wet and tacky for winged cars, they'll get going to fast n then the track is scared. The track will be dry slicked off on saturday too, that's to much racing on that surface, they screwed that track when they added foreign (non eldora) clay. We got screwed out of a good usac show in April and their last show there mother nature prepped the track. so good luck to tracey hines and his crew finding the set up. ;)
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Judging by Tony's current flavor of the month, I'd say the wings are staying for a bit.http://www.apexonephoto.com/World-of...84_BTKDS-M.jpg

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Originally Posted by racefan20:
Hey short stuff :2: why would you want to force the WoO(and the extra days $$) down the throats of those of us who have no interest in the wings? Bring the damn mods or LM's back instead and do it the old way.

I think I agree with you on this one. Bring the damn mods or Lm's back and make it a two day show. If I want to see wings I'll go to a wing show. I'll be there Friday but not inside the track area. :32:

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Not to put down non wing racing, but I doubt many people or late models would show up for a one night show. Not too many successful nonwing/fender races in the past. Eldora has a few races you may have heard about, the Dream, the World 100 and the UMP Nationals that cover mods and late models. Last year the nationals had around 100 cars in each division. I might add, I am not one for tradition and this race has bounced around different divisions for years.

This is the same weekend as:
September 23, 24, 25 --- 31st Annual Jackson 100 Weekend
Lucas Oil Late Model Dirt Series $20,000 to win
at Brownstown Speedway.

Who wouldn't want to see Brad Sweet compete in all four divisions?

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Originally Posted by SPRINTCAR:
I think I agree with you on this one. Bring the damn mods or Lm's back and make it a two day show. If I want to see wings I'll go to a wing show. I'll be there Friday but not inside the track area. :32:

We'll be there Saturday , Gas city Friday nite . Can't see paying who knows who knows how much to see a parade .:32:

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Originally Posted by mowerman:
We'll be there Saturday , Gas city Friday nite . Can't see paying who knows who knows how much to see a parade .:32:

I'll be there Friday to see the greatest sprint car drivers in the world. I haven't made up my mind yet whether I'll hang around for the minor leaguers on Saturday. The Outlaws were brought in to boost the sagging attendence at a USAC event. If USAC fans would just stop crying and ******** about everything and go to the track the Outlaws would not have been needed.

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Originally Posted by Russ:
I'll be there Friday to see the greatest sprint car drivers in the world. I haven't made up my mind yet whether I'll hang around for the minor leaguers on Saturday. The Outlaws were brought in to boost the sagging attendence at a USAC event. If USAC fans would just stop crying and ******** about everything and go to the track the Outlaws would not have been needed.

Somewhere, someone has broken their keyboard!:3: <--- MY FIRST AND LAST USE OF AN EMOTICON

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And Russ,

Here is my WoO at Ohsweken and Fulton photos, for you and the other 2.5 people who like wings on here.

World of Outlaws Sprint Cars, Ohsweken Speedway, Ohsweken, ON, July 30, 2010

World of Outlaws Sprint Cars, Fulton Speedway, Fulton, NY, August 3, 2010

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Originally Posted by apexonephoto:
Not to put down non wing racing, but I doubt many people or late models would show up for a one night show. Not too many successful nonwing/fender races in the past. Eldora has a few races you may have heard about, the Dream, the World 100 and the UMP Nationals that cover mods and late models. Last year the nationals had around 100 cars in each division. I might add, I am not one for tradition and this race has bounced around different divisions for years.

This is the same weekend as:
September 23, 24, 25 --- 31st Annual Jackson 100 Weekend
Lucas Oil Late Model Dirt Series $20,000 to win
at Brownstown Speedway.

Who wouldn't want to see Brad Sweet compete in all four divisions?

I doubt many people or late models would show up for a one night show.

You don't get it. We are not looking for a one nite late model show and then the 3 crown the next day. Go back and see when they ran Mods or LM's with Usac both nites.:11:

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Originally Posted by Russ:
I'll be there Friday to see the greatest sprint car drivers in the world. I haven't made up my mind yet whether I'll hang around for the minor leaguers on Saturday. The Outlaws were brought in to boost the sagging attendence at a USAC event. If USAC fans would just stop crying and ******** about everything and go to the track the Outlaws would not have been needed.

You sure your on the right website?
Or do you like jumping over here now and then to stir the pot?:3:

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Originally Posted by Russ:
I'll be there Friday to see the greatest sprint car drivers in the world. I haven't made up my mind yet whether I'll hang around for the minor leaguers on Saturday. The Outlaws were brought in to boost the sagging attendence at a USAC event. If USAC fans would just stop crying and ******** about everything and go to the track the Outlaws would not have been needed.

Guess you like parades huh Thats what most wing races are parades I have never seen you post any thing positive on this web site bout non wing sprints you should found one bout your wings Guess you can;t handle three and four wide racing :8:

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[QUOTE=apexonephoto;189391]Somewhere, someone has broken their keyboard!:3: <--- MY FIRST AND LAST USE OF AN EMOTICON

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And Russ,

Here is my WoO at Ohsweken and Fulton photos, for you and the other 2.5 people who like wings on here.


Your right, 2.5 people. This is IOW and apparently you still don,t get it.:3:

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[QUOTE=SPRINTCAR;189432]

Originally Posted by apexonephoto:
Somewhere, someone has broken their keyboard!:3: <--- MY FIRST AND LAST USE OF AN EMOTICON

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And Russ,

Here is my WoO at Ohsweken and Fulton photos, for you and the other 2.5 people who like wings on here.


Your right, 2.5 people. This is IOW and apparently you still don,t get it.:3:

I get it, I know people don't like wings. I've been here long enough to hear people get flamed for bringing up wings.

Just because I shot two wing races last week, that don't mean I like them! I can't help if the World of Outlaws are an international series...

I know non-wing is great, I tell people all the time. It's a shame that hardly anyone outside of Indiana knows what it is.