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Motormasher 5/12/09 3:43 PM
Re: Changing Flats
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Willy (Post 102650)
So can we all be certain that you'll be pulling your name from the list of drivers running the SCORA series since their rules also prohibit a car from re-entering a race once it's left the track?
I will not go to Jacksonville IL, Kamp or Kankakee, IL if thats the rule.

I am not driving over 2 hours to any track to just run a heat race because of a flat tire.

Rpracing1 5/12/09 4:08 PM
Re: Changing Flats
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Rudisell (Post 102550)
Starting this past weekend, We at Lawrenceburg Speedway now allow sprint cars to exit and changed tires under yellow, in the feature only. Thanks, Dave Rudisell
Questions???

So the tire does not have to be flat?

How much time is allowed for a tire change?

Do officials monitor these situations and make sure that no other changes are made?

How much time will this add to a feature if several cars do this at the same yellow flag period?

Does the tire have to be completely flat?

On which lap of the yellow period do you have to come in do do a pit stop?

Is this front or rear tires?

If race drags out due to multiple cars doing pit stops for tires, will a fuel stop be implemented if necessary?

Z-man 5/12/09 4:27 PM
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I think last weekend the announcer stated that the team had two complete yellow flag laps from the time he entered his pit. This may have been a MASS or NRA rule though I can't remember.

sprinter25 5/12/09 5:16 PM
Re: Changing Flats
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rpracing1 (Post 102709)
Questions???

So the tire does not have to be flat?

How much time is allowed for a tire change?

Do officials monitor these situations and make sure that no other changes are made?

How much time will this add to a feature if several cars do this at the same yellow flag period?

Does the tire have to be completely flat?

On which lap of the yellow period do you have to come in do do a pit stop?

Is this front or rear tires?

If race drags out due to multiple cars doing pit stops for tires, will a fuel stop be implemented if necessary?
And this is the sliipery slope that allowing tire changes and allowing cars to exit the racing surface and then re-enter.

I guarantee that someone will get the short end on the call here, and scream bloody murder that he didn't get the same time as others. The no tire change rule, while strict, can at least be administered equally...and easily...

Any other way, and it becomes a judgement call, which just opens it up to interpretation and mistakes and perceived favoritism.....

SHORTBUS 5/12/09 5:42 PM
Re: Changing Flats
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by motormasher (Post 102605)
way to go dave, you really seem to have your ^(&* together.:8:

I know i am not gonna pull my car 4 hrs to any track that won't allow me to change a flat tire. I am just gonna go the closest track to home. And i bet thats what a lot of other guys are gonna do to.
you probably be lucky to get yours out of the yard :3::3:

Rpracing1 5/12/09 6:33 PM
Re: Changing Flats
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sprinter25 (Post 102717)
And this is the sliipery slope that allowing tire changes and allowing cars to exit the racing surface and then re-enter.

I guarantee that someone will get the short end on the call here, and scream bloody murder that he didn't get the same time as others. The no tire change rule, while strict, can at least be administered equally...and easily...

Any other way, and it becomes a judgement call, which just opens it up to interpretation and mistakes and perceived favoritism.....
Exactly!

Leftcoastmudeater 5/12/09 6:55 PM
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JMO, but you should get two laps under caution once you hit the "work area" as that is where the work is to be done, not at your trailer, if you go to the trailer your done & if takes more than two laps to get the cars lined back up after the yellow then your work time should be extended by the same time. But once the cars are lined up & ready to race and the two laps have been given work ends & race continues. Seems pretty cut & dry to me. On the west coast, all tracks & sanctioning bodies that I attend abide by this rule with no detriment to the efficiency that fans expect the show to be run at. Again JMO

Charles Nungester 5/12/09 7:01 PM
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I believe the Burgs rule is they aint waiting for ya. Your fixed and ready before the one to go is given. The simple solution to somone flying thru the pits is a complete disqualification, Winings and return to the track forfieted.. Idle speed only.

Dirtfan 5/12/09 10:07 PM
Re: Changing Flats
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SHORTBUS (Post 102719)
you probably be lucky to get yours out of the yard :3::3:
I was thinking more like the pawn shop:5:

dant 5/12/09 10:13 PM
Re: Changing Flats
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leftcoastmudeater (Post 102733)
JMO, but you should get two laps under caution once you hit the "work area" as that is where the work is to be done, not at your trailer, if you go to the trailer your done & if takes more than two laps to get the cars lined back up after the yellow then your work time should be extended by the same time. But once the cars are lined up & ready to race and the two laps have been given work ends & race continues. Seems pretty cut & dry to me. On the west coast, all tracks & sanctioning bodies that I attend abide by this rule with no detriment to the efficiency that fans expect the show to be run at. Again JMO
You got it right !


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