Originally Posted by Jonr:
Going to need some help from the farmers/construction guys, but I am 90% sure that I read about a local track in KC using a machine to de-rock the surface. From what I remember, the machine would take it the top x inches of the surface and sort/mill the dirt for the rocks. The end result was a rock free race track.
When I read it, it all made so much sense that I wondered why all tracks did not do this.
Anyone have experience with this?
Yes, they do have equipment that does this. Its talked about in the pits every race I've been to at CC. By owners and drivers. No it's not free, may not be cheap, but it would CONSIDERABLY help!! Especially when it comes to injury, possible death, lawsuits, liability, and tearing up owners and drivers equipment.
The idea of a pizza party so to speak, get together, call it what you want, to have several people walking the track picking up rocks, h*ll that's better then nothing or just ignoring it and saying oh well.
Chuck is right, weather does play a role, specifically rain and winters. Moisture brings rocks up. That's why serious arrowhead hunters will go arrowhead hunting after a rain. All dirt does have rocks, very true statement unless it's been machined and sifted. I live in some of the best farm ground country in the state of IN, proven fact not opinion. They still have rocks. My guess is the first mistake they made when building this track, they bought sh*t dirt. That's a bad start.
To EldoraMark, I dont doubt you got hit at Kokomo, one of my good friends had a friend who had to get stitches at Smackdown this year from a rock. My eye injury at 13 years old come at Kokomo on the back stretch when we could sit in our vehicles along the track, and I have repeatedly said in here, to me, the best track in the state and nation. That's biased bc I live there and an OPINION. I had prescription glasses on back then. Back then glasses was glass. Not high tech plastic like they are now days. Rock and shattered glass went in my dominant eye, right eye. I am going blind in my right eye bc of that incident and will have to have surgery in the next 5-10 years or totally lose that eye. I also quit going racing for 20-25 years bc of that incident and missed a ton of great racing and drivers including but not limited to BC. All tracks do have rocks, but no other track in Indiana do you see rocks on tv or hear "ting ting ting ting" all night. As Chuck stated that, my best friend lives in Orlando and watches on Flo and ask me every time why are the rocks so bad at CC bc he can see them on the screen, but there's not a problem?
Oh for the nay sayers, Kokomo doesnt have aluminum bleachers on the front stretch, well the back stretch does. So does other tracks. Gas City has 1/2 inch x 1/2 wire all along the front stretch attached to the main fence, guess what, very few if any rocks go through that. CC is again, by far worse then any track in Indiana.
I wish I knew how to post pictures on here bc I d*mn sure would. Not only of the rocks, but welts and cuts I have gotten. I'm like the person that mentioned the pain issue, physical pain doesnt phase me. My entire upper body is covered in tattoos, 4 other tattoos on my legs, and 10 piercings. Physical pain doesnt phase me, it's a SAFETY ISSUE FOR ALL INVOVLED. Yep, noone made me go, noone makes me go, I CHOOSE TO, to support racing, the tracks, drivers, teams bc it's what I do when I'm not working, hunting, or fishing. I dont want to lose ANY track anymore then anyone else does!!
For YOU Quinn..."have some d*mn sense and read the WHOLE post"...I did sit in a different place, so did crappieman...show me one time in any of my post where I said poor Josh, poor me??? Cant do it bc it's not there. Crappieman and Grocery Guy didnt say poor me either did they. IF you can sit there and say you never got hit which may be true, but never seen a rock or never heard a rock, or heard ting ting ting ting off of the bleachers, well then you must be ONE H*LL OF AN HONEST PERSON lmfao hahaha. People like you are the problem. When something needs attention or addressed that can affect the future of the sport or a said track and dont speak up and voice your facts and opinions. Noone is trying or wanting to be negative or bad mouthing the track. Reread the rest of my post, 3rd favorite track, great racing, great facilities, great parking, good food regardless of price, all around 4/5 stars for me.
Again as Chuck said, not everyone can sit next to Quinn. Not everyone can sit on the top. People have health issues. People are in wheelchairs. People have walkers. People have canes. Some people dont like the d*mn view from the top including me. Some people drink tons and tons of fluids every day to stay hydrated and have to urinate alot and dont want to sit at the top, including myself. Some people have blatters/kidneys that when the urge hits they have to use the restroom they have to go right now and they cant sit at the top bc they wont make it to the restroom in time. Some people take water pills. Some people take other meds and must be as close as they can get to restrooms. Midget Week, Sprint Week, Smackdown type races, NOT EVERYONE can fit in on the top.
The rock issue, is SAFETY. Not complaints or b*itching or crying. The size of the rocks that's being thrown into the stands at CC, someone can get seriously hurt or killed. Guess what that spells, LAWSUIT. Guess what LAWSUIT means, usually losing a place or closing it down. It takes EVERYONE for a track to stay open and be successful. Not just owners, teams, drivers. Not just regulars or travelers. It takes families too. I can just about guarantee you, if a family goes to a track, if their child gets smoked and/or hurt by a rock, their done, people they know who was on the fence is done...guess what, that adds up. Those ticket sales add up. The money they spent of souvenirs adds up. The money they spent on concessions adds up. When people have to move rocks out of the way, that's a problem. When people are making rock piles on the bleachers, that's a problem. Whether you get hit or not, whether your too naive to admit the rock problem or not, it's a problem. Plain and simple. Like it or not.