[97juicedgmc]

So after the national lightning sprint meeting between many of the organizations..... did they come up with a set of rules that everyone has accepted, and/or enforcing? Looking on many of the websites there all very different still.

[penrith1]

Australian Lightning Sprint Clubs have good set of rules, hope to see USA do the same.. Here is the footage of our National Title ...

You Tube Video

You Tube Video

[97juicedgmc]

would like to see the verdict on the final set of rules, we have a set we have been following for years , and would like to see the difference and talk to the guys to see their thoughts but it doesnt make sense for everyone else to be following a national set of rules and us be outlaws with our own set ! we want to abide but just need to know what they are so we can

[openwheel44]

Rather than copy and pasting the entire set of rules, let me simply address the "critical" issues that was voted on at the meeting and discussed further with emails. Let me say at this point..........MALS, MLS and MMSA have agreed to the rules and tech procedures. MMSA is allowing porting for this year with complete package compliance beginning the 2015 season. Other groups have not responded as to their final intentions for this year versus next year. Two other groups have dry sump systems and porting allowed for this year and have expressed an "inclination" to accept the rules package next near but nothing has been stated officially. The sixth group that attended claims they are already running "stock" 1000cc motors but has yet to commit to the rules and tech procedure. We are hoping all groups eventually accept the total package but only time will tell. As mentioned before, the meeting was a step in a positive direction to unify a rules and tech procedure package with all parties involved leaving with a very good attitude about what had been accomplished to this point. I think everyone realized that was not an overnight solution for some groups due to the need to grandfather out certain concerns. NO one wanted to "park" any race cars right off the bat. If I have said anything out of line about the direction this is going or information given below, someone please enlighten me. Anyway, common sense car construction, safety rules, race procedures, protest procedures and wing sizes are pretty standard and fall in line with what all the groups have now. The "stand out" rules at this point are as follows:

Weigh rule................940# winged, 910# non-winged (no weight differences for gas versus alky)
Wheelbase................65" minimum and 72" maximum

No quick change rearends. Chain inside main frame rails.

No chassis altering devices allowed from inside the cockpit during an event, I.E. computer controlled shocks, cockpit adjustable shocks, torsion bar/blade adjusters, etc. Exception would be electrical or mechanical wing adjusters, Dial-a-jets, or brake proportioning valves. The knobs on existing adjustable shocks can be relocated behind the driver seat, as long as the driver cannot adjust the shocks while they are racing or on a yellow flag. Or simply removed.

Motor specification.......Four cylinder, four cycle production motorcycle motors with 1000cc stock stroke and bore. Must be
over two years old. Any motors other than Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki and Yamaha subject to prior approval. No BMW's
allowed at this time. Note some organizations are allowing 1200cc motors with additional weight for the year 2014.
Check local organizations for 1200cc motor rules if they allow them.

Electrical self starting with operating clutch and all production transmission gears usable.

No metal removal internally

Mechanical and electronic fuel injection allowed. Gas or alcohol acceptable. No nitro, nitrous oxide or oxygen enhancing
fuel additives are allowed in either gas or alcohol fuels.

Stock head, cylinder and crankcase. .015 milling allowed for head warpage. Stock cams with stock duration and lift
required. Stock pistons only. Stock valves required. No port work allowed. Note that it is the participants responsibility to
verify which organizations have made an exception on porting for the 2014 race season only.

Dry sumps not allowed beginning 2015. Local organization option for 2014. It is again the participants responsibility to
verify club rules for 2014.

Motor tech procedures to consist of checking bore and stroke. Bore scope top of piston for stock configuration and
checking deck height in relationg to the top of the spark plug hole. Spark plug hole at entry point will be visually inspected
for stock configuration. Bore scope will be utilized to check for any porting work or aftermarket valves. Note that fuel may
be checked a the discretion of the Tech Coordinator.

No traction control systems. No driver communication systems other than track required raceceivers when required.

Age limits determined by host track rules.


I have only listed the "high spots" that were, as I stated, agreed to at the meeting/emails. I can send the entire package to anyone that wants one, just let me know your email address. Everyone agreed at the meeting to take "baby steps" on the rules package and make adjustments at the end of the year as need be. This was just a simple start. No one came to the meeting with an agenda. We all have the same goal..........increase car counts by trying to control costs. Also promote a more competitive environment. Let racers know they can participate with other organizations and know they are on a level playing field. That being said........All group of 1000cc Lightning Sprints/1000cc MiniSprints are encouraged to review the rules package developed to this point and hopefully accept them at some point.

Sorry about the novel but I didn't know how else to condense this. Please let me know if anyone wants a complete rules package for review.

[DAD]

Phil

Just reading over your rules again. There is a rule in their that says the chain must be inside the main frame rail. Does this hold true for Henchcraft Cars and the new Hyper also?

Honest Dad himself

[PatrickMead#13]

Got a link to the full rules? Thank you

[Bear10]

It is inside the main frame rail of a Henchcraft. So therefore it would not apply to a Henchcraft.

[DAD]

Originally Posted by Bear10 It is inside the main frame rail of a Henchcraft. So therefore it would not apply to a Henchcraft.

Bear

On his newer cars doesn't Hench move the left rear frame rail inside the rear sprocket to make gear changing easier? and I think the same holds true for the new Hyper cars also Mike actually bends the left frame rail in with a dog leg to the center of the car to do the same thing. Like Smokey said "they didn't say I couldn't".

Rules are a pain>>>> whenever you come up with what seems like a real good rule there is always an instant when it ends up doing something you did not want it to do.

Honest Dad himself

[Bear10]

No the chain is inside the left side fraim rail ...

[jjones752]

I think that depends on how you define "left side frame rail". From the countershaft sprocket to just before the rear axle assembly, a newer Hench meets the letter of the rule; but I could see where an over-zealous official might look at the "jog" that moves the rail inboard of the sprocket and interpret it as not being "within the frame rail". I'm sure that the intent of such a rule is to further limit radical engine offsets but such questions point out just how difficult rules creation and interpretation can be...