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v8j (Offline)
  #41 12/10/09 6:52 PM
as of 5pm usac has not posted 2010 rules or changes
TJ Domark (Offline)
  #42 12/10/09 7:02 PM
If we want to take an alternative perspective:

Why dont we get midgets back on smaller race tracks where they belong and HP isnt the ultimate factor!

If we use Grundy County Speedway, IL (1/3 mile ) for example, UMARA home track... I can tell you that a -12 head, 155 esslinger, mopar, any older gen motor is still extremely competitive and have won alot of races there. All you need is a good handeling car and a driver.

I think NASCAR has proven this theory true by racing at places like Bristol where it's proven you can go faster by detuning a bigger motor.

Big Motors are only good on Big race tracks which often times = a boring race for the fans.

Just another perspective
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rz1 (Offline)
  #43 12/10/09 9:50 PM
Does anyone know how many races each manufacturers engines are generally going between freshenings?
And is it dirt or pavement?
Someone posted 4 races, if thats true WOW, not good, midget racing is dead!
Ken Bonnema (Offline)
  #44 12/10/09 10:19 PM
Originally Posted by rz1:
Does anyone know how many races each manufacturers engines are generally going between freshenings?
And is it dirt or pavement?
Someone posted 4 races, if thats true WOW, not good, midget racing is dead!
Just got off the phone with my buddy Dave Thurston. He just got done freshining his Esslinger ST after 35 races. Basicly just rings and bearings. That's not a unique situation with these motors. They are the Energizer Bunny of Midget Racing. One reason for them winning so many races might be that more teams are running them.
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Need For Speed (Offline)
  #45 12/10/09 10:39 PM
And through all the high tech advancements in engines, chassis, shocks, and tires..........

They still run for $2,500 to win!

That should have been enough for the really smart people to realize 'something'............
Eck (Offline)
  #46 12/11/09 4:10 AM
I think Domark had the answer when he said to book more races on small tracks. That's why this is USAC's problem and not POWRi's.
Dirt Pusher (Offline)
  #47 12/11/09 11:26 AM
Can someone tells us what engines the top 10 USAC Sprintcars were running this year?
usac99 (Offline)
  #48 12/11/09 2:50 PM
CLAXTON power for sprint cars---SPEED SERVICE power for midgets
ryoung99 (Offline)
  #49 12/11/09 5:58 PM
Originally Posted by Racerrob:
POINTS
1 Ford-Esslinger 565
2 Mopar 170
3 Fontana 133
4 Toyota 119
5 Chevrolet 83


It would seem to me that when one engine dominates by 3.3 times over the nearest competitor a change might be in order to allow the teams that do not have the resources to purchase an Esslinger to continue to compete.

Rob Hoffman
Rob,

I think your analysis is flawed from the perspective that it does not take into account the number of people running one engine v. another. If the majority of the racers are running Esslingers, even if the engines were 100% equal, it would make sense the Esslingers would have more points/wins.

The only way that stat is meaningful is if the field(s) have an equal number of cars with each engine type which we know was not the case.

Rick
speed service
  #50 12/11/09 5:58 PM
Usac99.. Hey thanks for the plug but I dont build motors!. That would be Speed Engines / Tim Sosbe not Speed Service. I do sell him hardware and such time to time but thats it.. Thanks

Chuy
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