[D.O.]

:pissonwings: What happens from here???

This isn't to be a hater of wings post it's a what is the next step for all?

WoO and Charlotte on Speed TV with Dave Despain hosting LIVE to the Speed demographics? Wow!!! They have it all after a few bad years with the split and ownership. 2007 lots of TV coverage the King Kinser wins on LIVE TV. Next Rite-Aid steps up to sponsor Syracuse and Charlotte.

We all have watched them re-grow into having what all wingers could ask. TV, Great car counts, Kings, Queens and Tony Stewart, Kasey Kahne and race durning big NHRA, NASCAR weekends and tracks! Perfect!!

Where do they go next??? It's grown to where they told us it was going and What is next??? More sponsors & TV ??

What does the IOW poster think is next for WoO and how can we make our USAC and Local tracks come up to that level.

Why so few WoO races in Indiana?

USAC has struggled since the ESPN days of old. Great LIVE TV each weeknight Thunder Days! It became a NASCAR pipline too.

You see Lucas Oil everywhere in Racing.
Why wouldn't they step up their program and put USAC on TV, like thunder days, pluse add to the purse increasing the payout from top to bottom. It would be cheaper than a new stadium. But that works well with National Networks and football tv.

If Lucas would produce 25 to 30 events on any network of USAC racers then they would be headed for the future like WoO is.
Lucas increase the purse money as we all have heard How long have they paid $4000 to win? But a lot more than the local track $1400.
How many drivers out there would then maybe get a pavement car and run USAC's National sprint series. You always hear people trying to deal for a pavement car, until they see the amount of pavement races on the schedule.
Wouldn't it make sense for all the driver development programs out there to be involved with TV?

More money and a great tv package would bring more racers out from their local tracks.

Where is Toyota???
They do support the midgets and probally will be approved to use there old nascar truck engines in Silver Crown. Mopar would probally like to do that as well.

What I haven't seen from Toyota is their help in marketing the series, races and TV. Long ago I watched them come into IMSA sport cars. Toyota had banners everwhere in the towns. Bought part of the TV time and Production, brought tents for the fans to enjoy their day at the track better. They besides bying into the series with TRD they had their people doing event promotion, selling Toyota.

Toyota is like Lucas Oil everywhere in racing. Bikes, Boats, Airplanes, Tractor Pulls and other National Sports.

So sorry to be so K.O. style long but what your all's ideas and thoughts?
Enjoy watching the races tonight on Race Network!

What's Next?


D.O. Laycock
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[chadsniffsmethanol]

Whoa, I was thinkin this exact thing earlier as i was browsing through some WoO sites. They have really taken hold of the second chance they have gotten, specifically with the TV coverage. A couple years ago i wouldnt have been surprised to see the series dead, now look at it. Why hasn't USAC stepped up their game? With backing like Lucas and Toyota, they have the money for big exposure. I could go on and on in a circle about this. I have no idea how or what is needed to compete with WoO coverage. I'm just happy to see sprint cars on basic cable tv again, but id much rather see the sprinters without the boxes get this kinda coverage. My friends who aren't even big race fans love watching sprint cars just because of the show they put on. It blows them away when I tell them how much HP is being put out in a car that weighs 1250lbs. Its a raw form of racing, that nascar ("They use to be moonshiners right?") or any other form of racing doesn't provide. Yadda yadda, my thoughts aren't really clear here...maybe I'll have something better in a bit.

[DonRacer]

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[SpfldMile]

As much as some people don't like wing racing, you have to admit those are big signboards on top of those cars. Signboards that are able to be read on TV. That in itself makes winged sprints more TV friendly and the big sponsors know that too. I don't know the answer, but I would love to see Thunder again in some format. Television exposure for non wing cars would definitely bring in some fans.

[Joey Woods]

JMO but there are too many options in USAC. With WOO you get the same names every night, you get the same cars, you get the same surface, and you get the same rules. Its easy to follow. To the casual fan USAC is complicated, you got dirt, pavement, silver crown, sprint car, and midget, then focus midgets, throw in all the regional stuff and you better be on a site like this everyday or your lost on who is doing what. If you go to a WOO race you know youre gonna see Kinser, go to a USAC sprint race and Darland might be off running a midget on pavement that night. I love the diversity in USAC but in this day and age it might be its own worse enemy. WOO is a true blue for profit business where as USAC is for making money but its more of a traditional ran CLUB with lots of history to uphold.

IMO thats what makes dirt late models so popular is because you dont have to decide which type of late model you want to follow, its just that, dirt and late models. With Sprint cars in general its crazy think about it, quater midget, modified midget, mini sprint, TQ, Kenyon, Focus,midget, wing modified midget, wing mini sprint, wing TQ, 600cc, 1200cc, stock , outlaw, non wing sprint 360,wing sprint 305, wing sprint 360, non wing 410, wing 410, silver crown dirt, silver crown pavement, then throw in some wieght rules that vary. With the exception of the new crate lates your choices are very simple, yea I know there are pavement late models but its not the same deal as it is with the open wheel world. I guess you could argue that leading up to late models you have street cars, mods then lates but its still much simpler to the casual fan such as my wife or my nieghbor that has never been the races before. Let me end by stating I love the USAC format but when asking why one on over another this is my take on it.

[Rex W.]

"Why so few WoO races in Indiana?" The smaller tracks can't hold enough peolpe?? Don't wanna pay the fee??

Somewhere , somehow, someone like a Ted Johnson needs to come along again.

[Dick Monahan]

The only thing I can see wrong with the current situation is that the races are run in two areas that are 1000 and 3000 miles from me. You folks in Indiana get to see a minimum of three well-attended races every weekend. What more do you need?

As far as TV is concerned, I think it just doesn't work for short track racing. I cheerfully spent $1000 or so to go to Perris last week, but I won't spend $10 to watch Manzy tonight. And, I wouldn't watch it if it were on cable TV, either. The appeal of short track racing is that there's something happening all over the track all the time. TV is forced to focus on one or two cars at a time. It's just not worth it.

Dick.

[hoosierhillbilly]

I think the biggest problem between USAC and DIRT, is that USAC is run like a club and DIRT Is run like a business. DIRT has business plan and a marketing plan. They also have some pretty talented managment with NASCAR ties. In particular, Tom Deery, who served as VP of the local NASCAR series, and Ben Geisler with a background in motorsports marketing. With their background in NASCAR, It seems like they have the "800-pound gorilla" mentality need to push their business. I am not sure that USAC has the same instincts. I have seen where there have been rumblings about a change in USAC. A change in leadership with a more aggresive agenda might help USAC.

[FishBurger]

Originally Posted by hoosierhillbilly I have seen where there have been rumblings about a change in USAC. A change in leadership with a more aggresive agenda might help USAC.

Do we really want USAC to be run like WoO? Maybe I'm just an old fossil resistant to change but I believe the advice "Be careful what you wish for" just might apply here. Are we striving to create a USAC where the people who don't go to races can watch on TV? No a criticism of any other opinions. Just wondering.

[Pat O'Connor Fan]

Originally Posted by FishBurger Do we really want USAC to be run like WoO? Maybe I'm just an old fossil resistant to change but I believe the advice "Be careful what you wish for" just might apply here. Are we striving to create a USAC where the people who don't go to races can watch on TV? No a criticism of any other opinions. Just wondering.

I believe that the Sage of Larryville has just expressed more wisdom than most younger folks possess.