griffithracing (Offline)
#1
5/27/13 11:04 AM
What are the benefits of the coil over cars? I know they were hot a few years ago but the trend seems back to the four bar. Thinking of getting a coil car. Let me know your thoughts
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Bill
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DaveP63 (Offline)
#2
5/27/13 6:07 PM
Coils are good for a smooth track, not so much for a rougher track, IMO. They are lighter and easier to change out as well. Most of my experience was with a coil front and bar rear though I did run a micro for a while that had coils on all four corners.
griffithracing (Offline)
#3
5/27/13 8:53 PM
Thanks for the reply. Is there any reason a lot of guys have gone back to 4 bar?
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97juicedgmc (Offline)
#4
5/27/13 9:33 PM
i think the main reason is the coil front they say you can feel more, works well on smooth tracks, and supposedly acts qucker but 1/2 the guys run 4 bar and the other half run coilovers..... coilover seems to be most popular out in the midwest i spoke to a couple guys out there and they say its because most of them run a 2" midget front axle because its more heavy duty king pins and etc because of rougher tackier tracks they were breaking the lightning sprint spindles and king pins , and they come set up for coil overs? so the real answer is probably preference ..... in ny we have guys that win races with both setups
Bradleyracing86 (Offline)
#5
5/28/13 10:06 PM
Coils have Constant Spring rate, bars change as car sets, due to the change of effective arm length.
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TQ29m (Offline)
#6
5/29/13 1:50 PM
I don't know as I buy that theory or not, but not being a fan of coil overs, I guess that can be expected. When I was in the car building business, I built what the customer wanted, and probably 75% were coilover, and the customers were happy, I, myself have always ran a 4 bar car, and the way I build them, I don't have a problem with the bars being a disadvantage, I can chg my fronts in 20lb increments in a flash, don't even need to jack it up, I can change each corner a total of 100#, either add, or take off, plus, it to me is a lot cheaper, in the long run, tag a marker tire, or another car, and the chances are good you'll be replacing a shock, maybe a spring, and hunting the rest of the stuff that gets lost in that sort of stuff. Coils vs bars have been a thing of the week since forever, if someone showed up with a cross leaf front, and won, you can bet your begonias that next week, at least half the cars would be sporting a cross leaf front end, just like they used to say about Kinser, and the dog turd on his hood. To each his own, I see no reason to take a perfectly good handling car, and chg it. The gentleman that gave Stewart his start, liked to mess with them, one time he'd have his ladder heim on the chassis, couple months later, the other way, and everyone had one of each in their trailer, didn't know why, but they had one! JMHO Bob!
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The Old Coyote (Offline)
#7
5/30/13 12:31 PM
I have a question along the same line. I have noticed some guys mount their shock stem up and others stem down. Any reason?
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TQ29m (Offline)
#8
5/30/13 1:12 PM
Lots of reasons, some guys worry about someone being able to see what their shock numbers are, some it's the difference between sprung, and unsprung weight, and some to try to minimize damage to the shock, in case it happens. Different strokes for different folks I guess! Bob
"Being old, isn't half as much fun, as getting there"! Ole Robert I!

The Old Coyote (Offline)
#9
5/30/13 4:51 PM
Thanks, I figured it came down to personal preference.
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jjones752 (Offline)
#10
5/30/13 5:05 PM
"Different strokes for different folks";
Nice.