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tjcain58 (Offline)
  #1 7/28/10 3:56 PM
The winged cars have over 100 cars in each of their classes. Non wing has 15! I'm going after Belleville because I've never been to Knoxville but if nobody wants to race there what's the point, I might just wait till they put the wings on.
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Kirk Spridgeon (Offline)
  #2 7/28/10 4:14 PM
As you could see by my tweet today, it says a lot about our drivers and teams when we can only get that many to enter and help support the event.
I know the race does not pay as much, but it is also the first one, and it would be nice if Knoxville could have some support in this endeavor. Instead, they get 14 entries so far (which means no one wanted to save any money on the entry fee), and half of those are either winged regulars, won't be there, or will have different drivers for the race.

Oskaloosa is pretty much the same list.
I am embarrassed.
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apexonephoto (Offline)
  #3 7/28/10 4:15 PM
I noticed that myself after seeing Spridge's tweet
111 360's
101 410's
14 nonwing....

I can see why they sometimes think they should cancel races...

I know it's wing mecca out there, not looking to blame anyone

What do you consider the most prestigious traditional sprint car race out there?

What is a big car count for a crown jewel in Indiana?

I know they only start so many cars, but big car counts mean big pit pass sales, big concessions, big grandstand sales and big parties before or after the race. Which should mean most people will call it a success.
PAW (Offline)
  #4 7/28/10 4:21 PM
I'd bet those 15 Sprint Cars will put on a better show then those 100 Wingers will.

:99:: Wings Don't Move Air THEY SUCK
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Kirk Spridgeon (Offline)
  #5 7/28/10 4:28 PM
Originally Posted by PAW:
I'd bet those 15 Sprint Cars will put on a better show then those 100 Wingers will.
That's your opinion. In my opinion, the Knoxville Nationals are an awfully good show. They invert the heats. The field is very competitive. The Friday night show last year was fantastic.

Here are the entries so far:
2 Johnny Herrera
2x Wayne Johnson (injured, substitute will be Kyle Larson)
4 Tracy Hines
4U Kyle Cummins (this team split up in May)
10A Ricky Logan (I don't remember Logan ever running wingless)
11 Chris Windom
20 Levi Jones
67 Henry Clarke
67K Dave Darland (obviously aren't together anymore; kudos to Pete Willoughby for always sending in his pre-entries)
69 Jerry Coons, Jr.
69x Mike Moore (local winged driver)
71 Damion Gardner
81 Robert Ballou
99 Brady Bacon
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wideopen24 (Offline)
  #6 7/28/10 4:29 PM
Knoxville 410 National is an event with history and the best purse in racing....

Knoxville 360 Nationals is as close as it gets to the real deal for the 360 guys...

Usac at Knoxville is a regular race 11 hours from home for most.....
5000 to win 425 to start...

You really cant expect to many teams to travel that far on a one off race that doesnt pay much more that a normal show...The only thing that may help is OSKY a couple days later....
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apexonephoto (Offline)
  #7 7/28/10 4:32 PM
Originally Posted by PAW:
I'd bet those 15 Sprint Cars will put on a better show then those 100 Wingers will.
(2) seven car heats and a feature... for $20 on a Sunday after (3) days of 360's.

Sounds like a get together, where as the 360's sounds like an event.

I'm not disagreeing about the quality of racing, it's the quantity of cars who bring the quantity of fans and the cash. Why did the Oswego race get cancelled, yet the Lucas Oil Late Models just ran last night to a packed house without any nascar drivers just a few hours from Oswego... I think dirt vs. pavement has something to do with it.
Kirk Spridgeon (Offline)
  #8 7/28/10 4:32 PM
There were 44 cars for last year's Knoxville race before it rained out.
Everything has to start somewhere.
apexonephoto (Offline)
  #9 7/28/10 4:43 PM
Originally Posted by wideopen24:
Knoxville 410 National is an event with history and the best purse in racing....

Knoxville 360 Nationals is as close as it gets to the real deal for the 360 guys...

Usac at Knoxville is a regular race 11 hours from home for most.....
5000 to win 425 to start...

You really cant expect to many teams to travel that far on a one off race that doesnt pay much more that a normal show...The only thing that may help is OSKY a couple days later....
Just to get off topic, why doesn't USAC run more shows in Ohio? Close to home, start some tradition, not too expensive. Not trying to start anything, just curious, I don't know the entire history of open wheel or usac. Fremont and Attica could be a good weekend to get some new fans.
RGardner (Offline)
  #10 7/28/10 4:44 PM
Originally Posted by Kirk Spridgeon:
There were 44 cars for last year's Knoxville race before it rained out.
Everything has to start somewhere.
Was the osky race last year a usac race?
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