racefan20 (Offline)
#1
1/8/08 10:45 PM
Kevin Miller and Jason Smith announced that Mopar will be the Midget Series sponsor for '08. Other interesting comments were that Jason would be making extra effort to get shows over at an earlier hour and that that they thought that the open red rule made the shows run longer so we may be seeing them go away:thumb: Anyone need a slightly used airhorn?
John Hoover
“To whom little is not enough, nothing is enough.” Epicurus
racefan20 (Offline)
#4
1/9/08 12:38 AM
If they said no more than 1 per race and none before the 1/2 way point I might agree but most fans think it makes the show run long. In this case perception is just as good as reality. The show after all is for and about the butts that fill the seats. Some involved in the sport seem to forget that at times.
Originally Posted by :
last years rule book stated every red would be open, although a certain chief steward decided to take the rules into his own hands, and that didn't happen.
If he had'nt there might have been a riot at a few races I attended last year.
John Hoover
“To whom little is not enough, nothing is enough.” Epicurus
dirtnonwingfan (Offline)
#5
1/9/08 1:27 AM
From my perspective, which is that of a fan, all of this sounds like good news. Since this is barely the second week of January, there is time for much more.
Frank Daigh
I want to first debunk the claim that all reds must be open. It is not part of the rule book and red flag procedure. (page 112, 1309 Red Flag Procedure) In fact the very first sentence of that rule states; Red flags will be opened up "at the discreation of the Chief Steward." It also states in this rule, Time to work is not gauranteed, you may not be able to reach your car before the 1 min horn is sounds. At the request of the teams they wanted more oppertunity to service their cars when possible. They were not given a promise it would happen but when possible all reds would be opened if conditions were right.
Opening the reds do not extend the length of the shows. The facts are pretty clear on this topic. Over 90% of the time when the crews were allowed to go on to the track durring a red the crews were removed before the track was ready to start cars. At one event the crews cleared their cars and it was 11 min before the first car was pushed. Notice I didn't say 100% of the time. Early in the season there was a learning peroid to make this procedure work properly. Some tracks are more efficent at cleaning up a red, have better wreckers and not every red needs to be open. At the discreation of the Chief Steward is the proper way to handle the open reds.
Racefan20 comment that the fans preception that opening the reds extend the show is probabley correct. All they see is the thong of crew members heading out to their cars. They don't see that only one wrecker is working properly or that only three or four push trucks are pushing 24 cars.
Ron
Midget82
#8
1/9/08 3:15 AM
Hey Hoover... I may be able to take that "slightly used" airhorn off your hands. :emote20:
Dwight Clock (Offline)
#10
1/9/08 6:45 AM
First off, I agree with Ron about the track crews at some tracks being more efficient than others. And I agree that there is a perception that open reds extend shows when, in fact, more often than not, they don't. With that said I still don't see the need for crews to work on their cars multiple times during an event. Most USAC sprint car and midget features are 30 laps. That is 7 1/2 miles at places such as Bloomington and Gas City, 15 miles at Terre Haute and Eldora. I think that limiting the open reds to 1 per race is a good idea. And there should be none before lap 10. After the 1 open red has been utilized there should be no others except, at the discretion of the race director, when there is a need for a fuel stop and then it should be for fuel only. If you think about it, allowing crews to make changes on their cars during an event actually penalizes those who have best figured out the set up for that race by allowing those who haven't an opportunity to make the required corrections.