[SRT93]

There is a new series starting in western Pennsylvania for 2018. They will run a sealed 602 crate, spec shocks, and spec tires. I was wondering if there is any series like this any where else that I could possibly check out this year.

I was also wondering if anybody had suggestions on what chassis I should look for. Does a wingless chassis have much of an advantage over a winged chassis?

Check out www.rushsprintcars.com for more information about the series. Points champion will receive a minimum of $5,000.

[latemodel55]

Check out Wisconsin wingless sprint series. They run a 604 crate. Very close to the 602.

[the visitor]

There is a wingless series that runs at New Egypt speedway in New Jersey. they run the 602 motor ,,,

[revjimk]

Originally Posted by the visitor There is a wingless series that runs at New Egypt speedway in New Jersey. they run the 602 motor ,,,

http://www.dirttrackdigest.com/New17/?p=2421

[Aces&Eights]

Originally Posted by SRT93 There is a new series starting in western Pennsylvania for 2018. They will run a sealed 602 crate, spec shocks, and spec tires. I was wondering if there is any series like this any where else that I could possibly check out this year. I was also wondering if anybody had suggestions on what chassis I should look for. Does a wingless chassis have much of an advantage over a winged chassis? Check out www.rushsprintcars.com for more information about the series. Points champion will receive a minimum of $5,000.

Welcome to IOW, I too have been exploring the non-wing Spec/Crate sprint classes around, I'm hoping we can get one started here in Georgia or South Carolina. As far as the Full on non-wing sprints they have the BOSS series up near you. Also at Path Valley Speedway they what are called the "Non-wing Super Sportsman Sprints", but I haven't got clear rules on them. I'll try and break down by region what I know so far. Search some of these names on youtube, like "UMSS Traditional Sprints", "Northeast Wingless Sprints" and "Elite Sprints". The links I've included below should give you an idea of what its like. There seems to be a boom nationwide, I hope it continues.
Regardless of rules the majority of these sprints make between:
400HP(GM602 w/4 barrel)
upto
480HP(Racesaver 305 with injection) all the other packages fall in between.
Everybody also runs Methanol for fuel.


Northeast Wingless Sprints: (Ny & NJ)
they run at New Egypt and Accord Speedways, NY or NJ I think. They have several videos on youtube and I 'll provide a few links. These cars use the 602, 4 barrel carb and a bert transmission(which isn't popular with traditional sprint racers)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b4XwWedJXQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97A2M_tyUxY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrastKI90W0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iyu18WQruP4

Wilmot Speedway Non-wing sprints: (Wisconsin)
These are essentially a traditional wingless sprint, but use the GM604 instead of GM602, with 4 barrel carb.
http://www.wisconsinwingless.com/dow....aspx?i=305916
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGuri7-mA4o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho3dYt_no8Y

UMSS Traditional Sprints: (Upper Midwest, Minnesota & Wisconsin)
These guys allow a wide variety of spec/crate sprints, all carb engines w/2 barrels, my favorite sanction that I've found.
http://traditional.umsprints.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwMJ...3SJLYQlhYwETDa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHQK-8FYzfM&t=191s

Elite Sprints: (Mainly Texas)
These guys are in Texas and are what called a "Racesaver 305" sprint. These guys actually use the same constant flow fuel injection as USAC 410's only smaller.
https://www.facebook.com/Elitesprints/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3obG193suM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpxJWUl32A4&t=324s

Joe Hunt Wingless Spec Sprints:(Mainly California, uses 350 w/2 barrel carb and starter)
http://www.specsprint.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kNtcDL24v4

[revjimk]

"Non Wing Super Sportsmen" aren't crate engines tho, they're 358s that usually run wings, occasionally take them off. Pleasant surprise to see them at Path for USAC Midget tour. I didn't know there were any nonwingers in Pa.
Local URC is also running few wingless races this year, they're either 358s or 360s, I fergit...

[darnall]

To chime in on your question... in your application most wing car chassis will more than get the job done for you.. especially if you avoid one type and change a couple components..

For a low HP steel block engine package I would stay away from a 41" chassis.. they were developed to keep cars with high hp and lightweight engines from flying the front end so easily by moving the engine forward a bit... a 40 inch car will be a great all around option for your needs and is the most commonly built/easy to find...a 39" car may be a bit better if your tracks are mostly dryslick.

Changing the 50" winged axle out for a 52-53" nonwing front axle will make the car much more stable overall and reduce its tendency to trip over the right front on a tight/tacky/rough surface.

A set of nonwing birdcages will allow you to run the lower rear ride height settings that are common in wingless racing while still keeping the torsion arm angle in its effective range. Lowering the rear a bunch with standard bircages can result in the torsion arms being flat or even being elevated at the hiem end while at rest which can get the travel geometry and spring rate out of whack.

I spent one season running an open engine nonwing class in the car in my profile pic... I had a steel block/steel head 305 competing against any engine you can imagine.. the chassis was a Beaberbuilt car that had all the same pick up points and components as a normal maxim, eagle, triplx etc wing chassis.. it was an 86-39 car and all I changed was the front axle. Got a baseline bar/shock setup recommendation and made one small bar change the second night in it.. the rest of the season I never changed a bar. At the track through the night I changed stagger air pressure wheelspacing and swapped a couple shocks based on track conditions and that was it. The car drove like a Cadillac every night..actually had no problem competing with and beating cars with nonwing specific chassis and way more power regularly.

[Brett2a]

The Wingless Super Sportsmen don't have power steering and have a box bottom frame rail so they weigh more. They also aren't fuel injected but are self starting. They put on an awesome show each week!