[tjracing41]

we are moving up into 360 we raced 600 before. i just need some advice as fare as injection systems and oil systems. i am good on the chassis etc. all i have to do is supply the bolt on stuff for the motor and just don't know what to look for. we are mainly going to be running on a Track Length: 1/3 Mile Banked Oval (1850ft on the outside - 1450ft on the inside) Track Width: 75 Feet (All the way around) Track Banking:Corners: 10 Degrees Front stretch: 5 Degrees Backstretch: 5 Degrees. so whatever help i can get i am great full
thanks Tyler

[Tim]

Originally Posted by tjracing41 we are moving up into 360 we raced 600 before. i just need some advice as fare as injection systems and oil systems. i am good on the chassis etc. all i have to do is supply the bolt on stuff for the motor and just don't know what to look for. we are mainly going to be running on a Track Length: 1/3 Mile Banked Oval (1850ft on the outside - 1450ft on the inside) Track Width: 75 Feet (All the way around) Track Banking:Corners: 10 Degrees Front stretch: 5 Degrees Backstretch: 5 Degrees. so whatever help i can get i am great full thanks Tyler

Tyler,

Many more questions:

Sprint car or winged sprint car

ASCS or not (ASCS requires 2-3/16" injection or, if larger you must use sleeves that are 2-3/16" ID). Also, are you using ASCS heads or other? Remember, if you're running the ASCS National Tour you must use ASCS heads. If you're running ASCS regional races any 23 degree head is OK as long as you use the ASCS restrictor intake gaskets.

Other than us, I don't know anyone who's not using dry-sump oil system. We've been using the old wet sump for 15 years with no problems and don't see the cost vs. benefit for us at this time, especially with a near $2K price tag.

More answers can come with your answers to these questions.

Tim Simmons

[tjracing41]

i would have to talk to my engine builder and see what heads he has for me i don't think they will be ASCS i think just a good set of 23 heads. and for now yes we are going to be running wing class. ill be racing at a local race track in Missouri, Lake Ozark Speedway.

[ACP]

We use Engler Fuel Injectors, and a Dailey Engineering Oil pump on our 360 motor.

[rmr6nm]

make sure heads ARE NOT raised intake. even with gaskets i'm pretty sure they are not accepted.

[Tim]

Originally Posted by tjracing41 i would have to talk to my engine builder and see what heads he has for me i don't think they will be ASCS i think just a good set of 23 heads. and for now yes we are going to be running wing class. ill be racing at a local race track in Missouri, Lake Ozark Speedway.

Generally speaking, tracks that run 360 winged sprint cars in your area have all adopted the ASCS regional rules that allow any 23 degree head with restrictor intake gaskets. The post about the raised runner heads is correct, I believe. I was under the impression that LOS ran ASCS rules. I know that WOW has adopted the ASCS rules package for motors, and I'm hearing talk that WOW will actually run under the ASCS banner next season. That being said, I believe LOS is one of their staple race tracks, so I'd make sure I talked to LOS about their rules package for next year. If they're going to ASCS, I'd get very familiar with their rules before instructing my engine builder on what to build.

Tim Simmons

[tjracing41]

i know this will make me sound like a dumb ass but what do you mean by raised intake. and so if LOS goes to ascs then i would have to have ascs heads or could i still run whatever 23 i want?

[dant]

Originally Posted by tjracing41 i know this will make me sound like a dumb ass but what do you mean by raised intake. and so if LOS goes to ascs then i would have to have ascs heads or could i still run whatever 23 i want?

I think your missing the whole point....if your trusting someone to build you a motor..take the rules for the track /organization your gonna run with to your builder and let him tell you what he wants to build and how...you [without any real knowledge]coming in and telling the guy 'how' is asking for trouble,,,,now to answer your question,,a raised runner simply means the intake runner is slightly higher than normal-allowing for the air to flow straighter to the intake valve..and ascs heads are accepted most universally and kinda the standard for restricted 360 sprint car races country wide therefore you could probly race anywhere at any track running 360s if you base your motor around those heads..have fun and good luck

[tjracing41]

the reson i ask is cuz he is building a motor for me so if he puts me a motor togeather he is going to build what he wants so if i need somthing diffrent or somthing thats cost more like diffrent heads its on me to pay for it. so i just trying figur if the head he will use i can race them or if i need to find somthing diffrent and buy myself. as of right now we have got that fare into it so before you ask what heds he useing idk.
thanks to all for the help so fare its making it a lot better in just have the insurence of knowing.

[gdude]

Get a set of ASCS heads. If they are used, find a tech guy to go over them with a fine tooth comb. If new, becarefull not to overport and ruin them.
Almost everyone is running ASCS heads now and it would be a wise investment to just get a pair and be done with it.