Since the owner won't do this, I will

6/14/10, 7:04 PM

It has come to my attention that someone has been posing as me under the name of outsider. Once this issue was brought to my attention I tried to resolve the isue with the onwer of this site. He instead has continued to attach the actions of outsider to me. Those who do know me know I am not someone to act like that. I have found the posts the poser known as outsider has made and am absolutely appaulled by those actions. While I can get into heated arguments, I don't resort to tactics like that.

Bill Gardner · 6/14/10, 11:07 PM

Hmmmm.... I normally would not get involved in this but after this ****** day... I've had enough!

Your DirtyWhiteBoy account is in moderated status, it has been this way since late December 2009.... what this means is that all of your posts must be approved by myself or a moderator. The reason this was done is because I felt to many of your posts were intentionally unpleasant or disruptive to this site. As the owner of IOW, I have that right.

A couple days after I made this decision back in December you messaged me telling me you were done coming to IOW... then just a few days after receiving your message on January 2, 2010, an account was registered using the username "outsider", this account was registered using the same ip address as your Dirtywhiteboy account. This is fact!

During the registration of outsiders account, dirtywhiteboy was listed as the referrering member. This is fact!

Since January 2, 2010, outsider made posts from 21 different IP addresses.... 19 of those IP addresses show posts from both dirtywhiteboy's account and outsider's account. Many of the posts were intentionally unpleasant or disruptive to this site, and during that same time we never saw one single post from dirtywhiteboy.

On May 30, 2010... I had finally seen enough of outsider's posts that were again what I observed to be intentionally unpleasant or disruptive to this site... On that day I banned outsider for those actions. Shortly after banning him I received message after message from outsider telling me that I was running this site like communist ****** or ***** and that I had no right to ban him from this site. I am the owner of IOW... I do whatever I feel is in the best interest of this site, it's members, it's guests and future members.

And now on to June 3, 2010... just 4 days after outsider has been banned, dirtywhiteboy reappears after 6 months of being gone wanting to know why his posts are being moderated. Now am I the only one here that find this just a bit ironic.

This is just a tiny bit of information about why I think outsider and dirtywhiteboy are the same person and I haven't even mentioned the multiple registrant report or the multiple login report. These reports are automated and built in to my administrative side of IOW... they are very accurate. Members here that are husband and wife appear on this report almost daily. This is something I don't pay very close attention too... mainly because I have more important things to do with my time.

Now, since I've been accused of publicly and privately flaming(as he put it in his most recent email to me), I will let all of you be the judge of how I handled this situation along with making your own decision about whether or not these usernames are the same person. I've made up my mind. He is free to post but they will have to be approved by myself or another moderator. Once he shows he can post respectfully without being intentionally unpleasant or disruptive to this site, I will reconsider the status.

You know, I could get angry about this and say things I might regret later... but I am very comfortable saying that I think I handle a majority of the sensitive situations here appropriately.

I hope everyone enjoys Midget Week!!!

Joe Snyder · 6/14/10, 11:14 PM

I think you handled it perfectly Bill.

If only handling Hayden was that easy! LOL j/k.

6/15/10, 5:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Gardner

Hmmmm.... I normally would not get involved in this but after this ****** day... I've had enough!

Your DirtyWhiteBoy account is in moderated status, it has been this way since late December 2009.... what this means is that all of your posts must be approved by myself or a moderator. The reason this was done is because I felt to many of your posts were intentionally unpleasant or disruptive to this site. As the owner of IOW, I have that right.

A couple days after I made this decision back in December you messaged me telling me you were done coming to IOW... then just a few days after receiving your message on January 2, 2010, an account was registered using the username "outsider", this account was registered using the same ip address as your Dirtywhiteboy account. This is fact!

During the registration of outsiders account, dirtywhiteboy was listed as the referrering member. This is fact!

Since January 2, 2010, outsider made posts from 21 different IP addresses.... 19 of those IP addresses show posts from both dirtywhiteboy's account and outsider's account. Many of the posts were intentionally unpleasant or disruptive to this site, and during that same time we never saw one single post from dirtywhiteboy.

On May 30, 2010... I had finally seen enough of outsider's posts that were again what I observed to be intentionally unpleasant or disruptive to this site... On that day I banned outsider for those actions. Shortly after banning him I received message after message from outsider telling me that I was running this site like communist Russia or China and that I had no right to ban him from this site. I am the owner of IOW... I do whatever I feel is in the best interest of this site, it's members, it's guests and future members.

And now on to June 3, 2010... just 4 days after outsider has been banned, dirtywhiteboy reappears after 6 months of being gone wanting to know why his posts are being moderated. Now am I the only one here that find this just a bit ironic.

This is just a tiny bit of information about why I think outsider and dirtywhiteboy are the same person and I haven't even mentioned the multiple registrant report or the multiple login report. These reports are automated and built in to my administrative side of IOW... they are very accurate. Members here that are husband and wife appear on this report almost daily. This is something I don't pay very close attention too... mainly because I have more important things to do with my time.

Now, since I've been accused of publicly and privately flaming(as he put it in his most recent email to me), I will let all of you be the judge of how I handled this situation along with making your own decision about whether or not these usernames are the same person. I've made up my mind. He is free to post but they will have to be approved by myself or another moderator. Once he shows he can post respectfully without being intentionally unpleasant or disruptive to this site, I will reconsider the status.

You know, I could get angry about this and say things I might regret later... but I am very comfortable saying that I think I handle a majority of the sensitive situations here appropriately... Heck, I just gave up $3600/year in Google ads because they were potentially infecting member computers with malware.

I hope everyone enjoys Midget Week!!!

So based off of the same IP address you assume I have done this? Because of being out of work and in an attempt to save my house I took in a roommate to help share expenses where I live back in November of 2009. Sadly that turned out to be a huge mistake on my part. I thought I could trust a close friend to help me out during a time I needed help but it seems I was very wrong.

Again I will publicly state that those who do know me know I don't resort to actions like that. You sir can do as you please, but until you really know the complete facts of situation, doing the assume thing; well you know what you get when you assume.

Bill Gardner · 6/15/10, 7:11 AM

I have enough problems of my own to worry about...

My decision has been made.

This will be the LAST POST ABOUT THIS! I will not address this again.

It is very simple.... You have 2 options.
#1 Accept the moderated status of your account and show that you will post in a respectful manner, then after several months I might reconsider the status.

#2 Never return to this site again.

Again, I will not go over this again... Your emails or PM's about this will not be answered.

If you post again about this, it will be removed.

cecil98 · 6/15/10, 7:13 AM

One word.........BUSTED

Hurryinhoosier · 6/15/10, 7:20 AM

Dirtywhiteoutsider.....looks like both hands are in the cookie jar.

bullring · 6/15/10, 7:32 AM

If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck.......

sprinter25 · 6/15/10, 7:40 AM

Your board, Bill....your rules......nuff said!

RACEMS41 · 6/15/10, 7:49 AM

Great job bill!!!!! This guy has always been a big negative. Finally got busted!!!!!!!!!!!!

6/14/10, 7:04 PM	#1 Since the owner won't do this, I will
dirtywhiteboy Posts: n/a	It has come to my attention that someone has been posing as me under the name of outsider. Once this issue was brought to my attention I tried to resolve the isue with the onwer of this site. He instead has continued to attach the actions of outsider to me. Those who do know me know I am not someone to act like that. I have found the posts the poser known as outsider has made and am absolutely appaulled by those actions. While I can get into heated arguments, I don't resort to tactics like that.

6/14/10, 11:14 PM	#3 Re: Since the owner won't do this, I will
Joe Snyder Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 68	I think you handled it perfectly Bill. If only handling Hayden was that easy! LOL j/k.

6/15/10, 7:20 AM	#7 Re: Since the owner won't do this, I will
Hurryinhoosier Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 172	Dirtywhiteoutsider.....looks like both hands are in the cookie jar.

6/15/10, 7:32 AM	#8 Re: Since the owner won't do this, I will
bullring Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 151	If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck.......