[DAD]

If a group was serious about racing on pavement, and had close to 100% feed back from it's regular competitors they could depend on 30% of them showing up to race if they were lucky. Remember the "Rumble" we had more members in the stands watching us than we had on the race track. We sure tanked the chance of ever going back to Fort Wayne?

The group should not depend for the turn out of one race to make their argument for them. It would be prudent to contact the guys in Illinois who have been racing on both surfaces for 30+ years with similar cars about tires and regulations to keep racing competitive. This would make a more racer friendly tire deal for the racers both in cost and endurance. Their next step would be to contact the guys up at the Speedrome in Indianapolis and try to work out a 3 or 4 race series. Indy is pretty central to most racers and would help reduce travel expenses.

Pavement racing is a bit more expensive but it would also be a big change of pace. Driving a car on pavement is an entirely difference experience from racing on dirt although many dirt drivers do try to race pavement the same way they race dirt.

I think finding sufficient number of good used pavement tires less than 2 years old to outfit an entire field of racers could be pretty difficult.

Honest Dad himself

[badcoupe]

One thing I miss in the tqs is running both, it's fun to change it up every once in awhile

[Bear10]

We race a ton of indoor races in winter .. they are purpose built 600 and races on hard surfaces such as pavement or concrete is wayyyy different then dirt. You can't take a dirt car and safely throw it on pavement and go at it. You better have someone coaching and setting the car up cuz it's wayyyyy different! Indoor racing on concrete is a little different also but I'll challenge anyone to set down in a 600 sidewinDer at ft wayne and tell me it's easy ! It's by far way harder than anything you will ever do . It's also way faster than it looks... if you touch anything other than bumper to bumper your going for a ride and it wont be soft.. but that all being said it is super super fun and challenging.. just saying if it happens everyone better be on there game and have all the rite tools!

[Bradleyracing86]

I agree it's way different but I'm pretty sure you can very easily make a dirt car run on pavement. The USAC ignite guys do it all the time.

[Bear10]

Didn't mean u couldn't but if you take ur car stright from the dirt track and throw it on pavement. Your in trouble! What I meant was your going to have to change some stuff as far as big adjustments! Same chassis yes. Great idea Andy I like it a lot

[DAD]

probably one of the biggest problems we faced at Fort Wayne was tires. They assumed because the sidewinders could run on dirt tires that the Midget chassis cars could also. There is a big difference between these two types of cars and tire design. Our center of gravity is much higher than a sidewinder and combine that with very tall, very wide and very soft dirt tires we just got way too much side bite.

Dirt cars work fine on pavement, however the racer that spends the most on converting his car to pavement has the best advantage. Back before the purpose built pavement cars John Godfrey actually sold a pavement conversion for his dirt Midgets. However the special pavement chassis combined with a pavement built motor was just to fast for a combi car. They also became way too expensive for most racers and thus the death of USAC pavement racing.

Their are good ideas out there to make both pavement and dirt racing just a little more affordable and competitive. Check out the guys over in Illinois.

As far as wings on pavement>>> Midgets before you make a judgment go watch the Winged pavement Sprints race at Salem, these guys do fantastic things on that old race track. They have taken a single groove freight train type race track and turned it into a three wide balls to the wall race track.

Honest Dad himself

[t_inmyface]

Whats a lightning sprint?

[badcoupe]

We used dirt tires at ft wayne and the old rca dome on the tqs but they were very tight. At tracks such as mt lawn speedrome Anderson we used pavement tires just fine. They lasted decent a rr new was good but not totally necessary not unlike dirt. When we ran a full midget at the speedrome new right sides were pretty mandatory each time to be fast.

[DAD]

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Lightning Sprint is an attempt by some racers to place a name on a Midget Chassis race car powered by a late model (usually 1000cc-1200cc) motorcycle motor that incorporates a motor cycle chain as it's drive system. It may race either with or with/out a wing.

Honest Dad himself

[cbhhms17439]

at ft wayne we lowered the car and ran left rear tires on both sides on the rear to lower the car even more sometimes we will even run a front tire on the left rear to get the stagger there useally plenty of grip so your real wide tires are not always nessacary