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Originally Posted by Charles Nungester Great info IMHO and FAIR! But I don't think Flo operates the same way Maybe it is a contract between the sanction and flo or the Track and Flo. IDK. The two numbers I gave (Don K saying they paid 1000 per) and (Kevin Miiler saying 50k viewers per usac race) Lets see, If you got half of Speedshift and 50 watched. $15X50,000 is 750K per event (That's half the speedshift full event price of $30 I don't think any track would be closing down with a couple of those Stream gate incomes. Hell if it was just one dollar per viewer it would be 25k to the track. If you just took the # of 50k subscribrs at 179.00 that's 8.9 million. and Miller said there was nearly 140k for the BC39 that's 25 million. All Im saying is there is enough money to put back into racing and still make a healthy profit. I'll go back to 2020 where flo held about six events at 50k to win. Probably 100k purses with NO FANS. Someone's getting the $$ and Im sure them tracks were either leased by flo or were paid handsomely to hold em. Don't get me wrong, I love the value of Flo. I probably watch the full shows of over a hundred events and the features of another fifty or more. Sometimes when I get home from a track I went to, I'll watch others features But I also didn't mind paying full price for a dozen events I couldn't make either Better than reruns.

Problem is there is no way in the world speed shift TV ever had that many subscribers. If it did, it would still be in business.

Is Flo making Money? YES. Is FLO profitable? YES Does it make the profits this board thinks it makes? HELL NO!!!! FLO has a huge staff. Go talk with the guys, look at what they travel in. If those guys were making millions, I sure think they would be traveling better than what they are. Look when they do pieces from their home, nothing special there. Next time your at the track, look at the multi-million dollar production equipment they roll in with. They are not broke, but FLO is no ESPN.

Race track have to wake up and realize its not 1990 anymore. In the 90's we were weekly at Anderson Speedway and Mt. Lawn. Both tracks had great car counts and tons of fans. As the car counts dwindled in the 2000's the fans left. Both of those tracks in the 90's you had to be there 2 hours before race time to get a top row seat, no matter what was racing. The front stretch at Anderson was atleast 80% full every night. We hit 4 to 6 races each year at Gas City. If you were not at the track at the start of Qualifications, you were not setting in the top 3 to 5 rows. It did not matter what was racing. We never even looked at the schedule for Gas City. It was all about if dad was home in time for us to make the drive and get a good seat. Car counts dwindle, crowd dwindled. None of these tracks have ever recovered. Go to them, they still run very similar to haw it was then.

[Charles Nungester]

I'll agree with everything you said about florence and car counts. Not nearly as many cars to draw from and sanctions help. It goes for a lot of tracks.

[The Old Coyote]

My automatic renewal just hit my credit card, $159 same as last year.

[Pancho Stapp]

I have been a long time DirtonDirt subscriber and that’s how I get Flo. Just had my renewal hit my account and it is still $150 for me. Has been for years.

[1021gpa]

I have been a flo subscriber since it started I was looking to see when mine was going to renew and it said it was going to be $179.99 to renew this year I said no thanks and cancelled mine maybe that will make me go to more races this year

[MIracing]

I talked to customer support at FloSports. FloTrack, FloHoops, etc are $150 and FloRacing is $179.99. I asked why there was a price difference in their verticals. She said there is more content on FloRacing. I asked her if I switched to FloTrack, what would I lose on FloRacing? She said nothing. Everything is included.

Long story short I signed up under FloTrack for or $150 and watch all of the content I did before.