Eck (Offline)
#71
12/13/09 9:16 PM
The idea of a combo car is almost impossible to enforce. How do you tell a car owner that he can't take an old dirt car, shove everything to the left and out-run a traditional dirt car? If USAC would run Bloomington more than Newton, this debate would be small.
polecar (Offline)
#72
12/13/09 10:08 PM
i would like to see the cu. inches cut by 15% on all motors. that way you are not singling out 1 motor. secondly safety, lets slow the cars down. with less hp. you could go to a narrower and a little harder right rear. you may save a little tire money as well.
Ken Bonnema (Offline)
#73
12/13/09 11:28 PM
To me it seems that the 3 most cost effective ways to even things up
are weight,restricting induction and tires. Weight is pretty easy as 5 lbs. = 5 lbs. In Ca ,Spec Sprints must weigh 1700 lbs, so many teams use steel for floor pans,side panels,motor plates, ect. Not only cost effective but likely safer as well. Induction is a little tougher. As Mr. Moore stated, testing would have to be done and there is the rub. There would be a lot at stake for the motor builders and some (or all) might be inclined to slip in a detuned unit for said test. I ain't sayin' ....... I'm just sayn':2:. So, if a particular Engine Builder was a major series sponsor.......uhh. Which brings us to the biggest political Football in Motorsports, Tires. Believe it or not the MG-7.8 came about because of BCRA. I was on the Board in 2002 and we found out that WMRA was running the MG-8.0 as their Spec R/R. It was hard and had good repatability with most teams getting 2-3 programs on it. As I recall, the 8.0 was no longer being produced so at the 2002 Promoters Workshop in Reno, BCRA, USAC and Hoosier got together and came up with the 7.8. From our perspective, the tire did it's job with the difference in lap times between the top cars and the lower dollar teams shrinking. Having said that, just because there is a number stamped on a Tire, that is no guarantee that all Tires are equal. I will leave it at that except my opinion is that the only numbers that matter come from a durometer and the number of "winds" (nylon/rayon) .inside the tire.
Racerrob (Offline)
#75
12/14/09 4:37 PM
Don,
I would put my money on the HP. Quite some time ago we were running at Terre Haute with Dave Darland. This show featured both non-wing 410s and winged 360s.
We were already locked into the feature but we missed our hot lap session with the non-wing 410s. They shoved us off with the wing cars to get heat in our motor but waived the green for the winged hot lap session while we were still on the track.
Much to my surprise in 4 green flag laps were were not passed by a single car. I really thought they would pass us like we were tied to a post but Dave would drive away from them on the straights and they would catch us in the corners.
Horsepower rules!
Respectfully,
Rob Hoffman
Heromaker (Offline)
#80
12/14/09 7:43 PM
USAC is not NASCAR and I really don't thing you are going to get anyones best motor. I have heard the name Ilmor as the one doing this independent test. That I think is a conflict of intrest as they themselves build a motor that competes with the other motors. It is going to be very hard to get a true reading unless you can take 4 cars right off of the track load them in the USAC trailer and take them to a Chassis dyno