[sapper211]

CJ is fine, wicked flip in his qualifying lap. He is up, out and digusted. Burned one up, flip this one.

[Sandy Lowe]

USAC has their own program to reward their drivers and to try and protect their brand. It is called the "Amsoil DOMINATOR Sprint Car Incentive Program."

From usacracing.com:

The Amsoil DOMINATOR Sprint Car Incentive Program rewards the top-ten in owner points for races in the state of Indiana and the top-twelve in owner points outside the state of Indiana. The active incentive teams at each race will be based on points entering the event, with only those owners being eligible, whether all incentive cars are present or not. The driver for any event must be a licensed USAC driver to be eligible.

Incentives:

1. Free Pit Entry – Registered Car Owner and Licensed USAC Driver
2. Car Entry Fee Waived
3. *$150 Bonus for races outside the state of Indiana*

The entry fee will be waived for all eligible cars at every event except for those requiring pre-registration. For those, competitors are responsible for providing their own entry fee and information. USAC will not cover.

USAC reserves the right to withdraw incentives from any car owner for any length of time, due to actions detrimental to the sport or violating the loyalty clause. Negative comments, either in interviews or on social media. The incentive teams are viewed as the standard in sprint car racing and will be held to higher expectations. The loyalty clause excludes incentive teams from racing a competing dirt sprint car event on the same day as a USAC National Sprint event. Furthermore, they will not compete within 24 hours and 200 miles of a scheduled USAC National Sprint event at a track that does not conduct at least 1 scheduled USAC event during the calendar year.

The 2016 Amsoil DOMINATOR Sprint Car Incentive Program goes into effect on February 18th, with teams finishing the 2015 season among the top-twelve being eligible to receive benefits. Points from the current season will establish the eligible teams starting on April 1st.

So if you are in the top 10, are loyal to USAC & don't bad mouth them you get a couple free pit passes & a comped entry fee at each race - $90 or so value? Plus you are eligible for the year-end point fund of $100,000 plus.

Doesn't sound like a bad trade-off to me.

You can still run a local Bloomington show the day before a USAC race at Lincoln Park, you just can't run a local Lawrenceburg show the same night USAC is at Putnamville.

USAC tries to schedule multiple races together when they travel out of the Indiana area to make it more cost effective for their teams. If they allowed their teams to run a local show the day before, and in the same area, as an out-of-state USAC show why would promoters book a USAC race if they could get the same drivers for less than half the price?

Would there even be an "Eastern Storm" or any of the other multi day swings if they allowed this to happen?

[sapper211]

Macho Man tagging the field in the B! Up to 9th, yellow, 4 transfer. Woo, made the main!!! 4th with second to last lap pass!!! Picked em off one by one.

[Nate]

Sandy, I feel like that one makes complete sense. Thanks

[sapper211]

Originally Posted by sapper211 Macho Man tagging the field in the B! Up to 9th, yellow, 4 transfer. Woo, made the main!!! 4th with second to last lap pass!!! Picked em off one by one.

A main, 5 left, Macho Man jumped the cushion got sucked into the wall in two. Turned it over a few times. He hopped right out.

[jim goerge]

Originally Posted by Nate Do you honestly think that because Schatz or Shane Stewart go and run Badlands for a one off event that it's somehow going to hurt WoO in the long run? It's not like 50k to win shows happen on a weekly basis. I still don't get what the big deal is? Like I said on WoO off nights during Speedweeks in FL you have guys running ASCoC that are WoO regulars. Pittman, Saldana, Stewart, etc (all big names in WoO) ran Cocopah and there was no drama there. Not trying to argue with you. I just think all the drama up that way is more of a result of the Badlands/Chuck vs. WoO rather than WoO trying to protect their product.

Nate I also not trying to argue but the All Stars were in Florida 3 days before the Outlaws were to start so the big name outlaw guys could run with the All Stars because their season HADN"T started yet Once the outlaw season started the names only ran outlaw races. They ran the All Stars to test their cars and maybe pick up a little extra cash

[Charles Nungester]

I undestan loyalty clauses etc. but like out there with knoxville and jackson Nsl Woo etc THERES NOT ENOUGH CARS TO SHOW UP TO A 50k RACE TO NOT EVEN WARRANT A CONSI? To me, thats a black eye on the whole state of winged racing!

TO GET OUTSTAGED BY NON WING RUNNING A THOU MILES FROM HOME BASE! PATHETIC!

I say this because many of the biggest races started with NO SANCTION! then the sanctions kinda forced their way in by keeping stars out of prelims and non their brand shows......

The kings royal, grove national open big one and others Didn't have a sanction for years.

IDK, maybe they are running for a higher average purse or big points fund, BUT THEN PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS ASKING: Why aren't there more big money races? HELL YOU CAN'T EVEN START ONE ANYMORE WITHOUT SOME BRAND OR SANCTIONS APPROVAL AND THE FEE THAT COMES WITH IT.

I also didn't get the whole chuck vs knoxville vs jackson thing. You either work together on some things. OR WHOEVER DOES IT BEST SHOULD WIN!

Rant over. but to me it puts a black eye on winged racing to me. Well supported this would have grown next year in purse throughout the field, Made me want to drive 14 hours to see it next year, NOW THERE MAY BE NO NEXT YEAR. AND SOME OF THE: REAL OUTLAWS WHO ACTUALLY SHOWED UP CAN MAKE ONE THOUSAND ON TWO SEPERAT NIGHTS BY RUNNING THREE LAPS. Run one qual. lap, one heat lap and one feature lap, All because there are not enough to warrent a consi for a 50k race.

Good job usac and the nw guys who went, to reckognize a GOOD THING when it was offered!

[motorhead748]

Originally Posted by Charles Nungester I undestan loyalty clauses etc. but like out there with knoxville and jackson Nsl Woo etc THERES NOT ENOUGH CARS TO SHOW UP TO A 50k RACE TO NOT EVEN WARRANT A CONSI? To me, thats a black eye on the whole state of winged racing! TO GET OUTSTAGED BY NON WING RUNNING A THOU MILES FROM HOME BASE! PATHETIC! I say this because many of the biggest races started with NO SANCTION! then the sanctions kinda forced their way in by keeping stars out of prelims and non their brand shows...... The kings royal, grove national open big one and others Didn't have a sanction for years. IDK, maybe they are running for a higher average purse or big points fund, BUT THEN PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS ASKING: Why aren't there more big money races? HELL YOU CAN'T EVEN START ONE ANYMORE WITHOUT SOME BRAND OR SANCTIONS APPROVAL AND THE FEE THAT COMES WITH IT. I also didn't get the whole chuck vs knoxville vs jackson thing. You either work together on some things. OR WHOEVER DOES IT BEST SHOULD WIN! Rant over. but to me it puts a black eye on winged racing to me. Well supported this would have grown next year in purse throughout the field, Made me want to drive 14 hours to see it next year, NOW THERE MAY BE NO NEXT YEAR. AND SOME OF THE: REAL OUTLAWS WHO ACTUALLY SHOWED UP CAN MAKE ONE THOUSAND ON TWO SEPERAT NIGHTS BY RUNNING THREE LAPS. Run one qual. lap, one heat lap and one feature lap, All because there are not enough to warrent a consi for a 50k race. Good job usac and the nw guys who went, to reckognize a GOOD THING when it was offered!

seriously? Out staged? They get 5 more cars and it shames wing racing? I'd bet there were more than a couple of those cars who'd never ran NW. And this is a very top heavy purse that was only raised to $10K to win (with the rest of the field staying the same) when they realized the event wasn't gonna be as big as hoped. I'm happy for the non wing guys to get to run for a decent purse but they are their own worst enemy, it's not unheard of having 40-50+ cars for $1500 to win. Hell we have 1 track that pays $500 to win!! And they have a full field. That's unbelievable to me.
I've followed the badlands/ Jackson/Knoxville saga and it seems that the badlands promotor has alienated a number of people he has dealt with and had he been dealing with the NW guys all along he'd likely po'd a few of those as well.

[Backitin]

I don't think a car count can shame one type of racing or not.
The shame comes when the actual racing starts and the real sprintcars put on a show worlds better then the winged cars. Happens 99% of the time.

[motorhead748]

Originally Posted by Backitin I don't think a car count can shame one type of racing or not. The shame comes when the actual racing starts and the real sprintcars put on a show worlds better then the winged cars. Happens 99% of the time.

I've seen good and not so good (none of it bad) of both, I'm sure most have too.....