Are you exaggerating a little there Don?? I bought an ST 12 months ago had it airfreighted here to Australia paid all the taxes, government duties etc and it cost me not much more thane the figures you are quoting and all that I had to supply to complete the motor was a muffler!!!! So either the price of the ST has gone up heaps (not likely) or your friend is getting just quite a few extras thrown in!!!! :headbang

One thing that always gets me is people exaggerating the prices of engines!!!! Sure there are a couple of builders that charge around the $50k mark for a new motor but I can assure you there are a lot more that a priced well under that cost and have more results on the board too!!!:angry-smiley-007:

That's no exaggeration. He quoted me the invoice with several extras that he ordered with it. You can buy a new Sesco Mopar for that, maybe a bit cheaper.

Hope you make it to Toledo, Jason. I may have some items to help you out there. Email me.

I apologize, the second was at Belle-Claire, it was actually a third last season at the Prairie. http://www.bmara.com/2007/results/7_22/7_22.htm We did not fare so well at the Prairie this year with mechanical issues the first time and then getting upside down pretty hard on the second visit. Also ran decent there in 2006 with the old style esslinger. #86 Spike w/Justin Allgaier.

Don, I might be nuts, but I actually think that Hoosier would sell more tires. The elite guys are still going to buy tires as often as they can. The difference would be the guys that have cars that currently do not race them. If you can lower their tire bill they could run more. More cars often brings better racing and more fans, which could mean better purses.

As far as the tire price difference on the focus tires, I suspect that there are a couple of factors. The fee that the sanction takes is probably a big part of that. In modifieds for example, IMCA modified tires are cheaper than UMP modified tires due in part to the fee collected by the sanction per tire. I am sure that Kevin Miller would tell you what their take is per tire from Hoosier. I honestly would not be surprised if the margins on tires were higher for the sanctioning bodies than what the Hoosier tire dealer makes.

This thread has been going on now for several days and not a word from Mr. Miller or POWRi. It's business as usual.:thumbsdown:

I'm kind of new at this but i've been running mini sprints for several years. You guys are talking about throwing away tires that we would consider new. The tire we ran on last week ran the chili bowl 2 yeara ago and we probably have 4 or 5 races on them since then. Find a way to pool your resources and collect these old junk tires and sell them to your lesser brethren. A heat tire would be great for our featuer tire maybe 2 or 3 features. I bet there is a market there and it would help every one.

Low dollar midget guys quit crying, there is an alternative.
Buy a sprint car.
Me and Chad have and now we are competitive.
Speeking for myself we are about as low budget as they get and since we have went non wing sprint car racing we have won two track championships,and we are second in points at two tracks this year and won two features at Danville with 30 or more cars with a $7500.00 steel block 360. Just goes to show sprint cars non wing are more driver and set up than $$$$. Low dollar guys quit racing midgets with USAC and let those ten teams run by there selves for a year or two and sooner or later the price of them have to start coming down.There are plenty of non wing racing and you only have to have 1 right rear tire, i have ran the same two right rears all year, and we also get 30 to 35 nights on a 2500.00 overhaul!
My two cents. Scott Weyant