[sp6967]

i am guessing everyone on this site likes going to the track, might not agree when. i do know one thing, if this economy doesn't get going, there won't be much racing to go to.

[captrat]

Originally Posted by Charles Nungester Wall to wall seating like the Kings Royal? No. Regular show where at most tracks you have some elbow room. Hell yes. I got every risk factor there is and you got no clue what's going to get you and win. I'd rather die having lived, Than die sitting around rotting inside of worry, fear and loneliness. Other than NYC area the death rate of those who get it is about 1-100,000 who get it. I don't know why some people get so bad and apparently neither do the doctors While risk factors are a player, That's not what's making some people's immune systems overreact and drown the with pneumonia. You are never safe. Flu about got me two years ago when about 84,000 died of it 2017-18 and nothing was shut down, never even made the news other than a few schools shut down for a couple weeks here and there. You are never safe, I see friends and family battle cancer for years and even had a friend who it took him in 3 months flat.at 22 years old. Come memorial day with high temps and humidity. The bug is almost nontransferable unless you sit together in a air condition room. Im not a doctor, But I can say. This stay at home crap isn't living. And they have people so scared, they won't go to the Dr. They are finding people at their homes dead from heart attacks, strokes and flu because either they were too scared to go or the dr.s wouldn't see them in person.

What empirical evidence can you cite to support that this novel virus is not transferable in higher temperatures?

[sw1911]

Originally Posted by captrat What empirical evidence can you cite to support that this novel virus is not transferable in higher temperatures?

That's a pretty hi tech question for a sprint car board

[ThrowbackRacingTeam]

Yes. I'm not a *****. Home track in Iowa fires up a week from Friday and I'll be there. When my chances are better than 99% that I'll be fine, I'll take that. I don't blame anyone for wearing a mask or bringing hand sanitizer but staying home is BS.

[addictedtodirt]

I'll be there the first chance I get. Had tickets to Circus City until they were forced to cancel. Was thrilled at the idea of supporting a local track. Can't wait to get out and see and my fellow fans. Hell, first beer's on me! You just gotta find me.

[captrat]

Originally Posted by sw1911 That's a pretty hi tech question for a sprint car board

Nah, sprint car folks come from a huge and varied demographic cross section of the population. 😁🍻

[chop]

When I was teenager, a long time ago. We went to a SOD race at the Ionia Michigan fairgrounds. At some point in the heat races, the track announcer said something like code 6259. Right after that was said about 20% of the guys in the stands stood up. You could hear them saying things like "I will ride with you". "Your wife can ride home with my wife". Things like that. The guys all left the races. What was code 6259? ( I am making up what the code number really was) The Ionia state prison had a major inmate uprising. It was so bad they called all off duty guards back to work. Just a funny story from the good old days. My dad made a observation that a lot of guards go to sprint car races. I also think Mike Shaw won that night.
The Fairgrounds is about 1/2 way between I-96 speedway and Crystal speedway. What that has to do with anything? Till it was cancelled, the Allstars sprints had a Friday May 15 race at I-96 then on to gas city and then the next night at Kokomo. So how many prison guards do you think would have been at the track that night? Here in Michigan as I type this we have had over 4,600 people die. Lets say the highest numbers of deaths was on the east side of the state, also at nursing homes, meat packing plants and prisons. Like to share a seat next to a prison guard this Friday at I-96?
Also in both directions from I-96 is a huge chicken egg producer with in a few miles of the track. The state is having a problem with the place because of the high rate of infected workers there. Maybe in the seats behind you at I96 an egg worker can sit.
So we have been taking, my friend from Detroit, another one that works at a prison, his brother that works at the meat packing plant, that guys brother-inlaw that works at a nursing home, on making a weekend of the allstar race. Hit all 3 of them. Maybe stop off at the Indian casino. Play some slots, black jack, craps. You know how guys are, so a trip to a strip club will happen at some point. Always funny how you have all the one dollar bills when you leave the place. Its ok we will use them at gas city. Odds are we will also sleep in the van one night. Whats it going to hurt to not shower for a day or so.
See you in line at Kokomo to buy tickets. If we are coughing a bit, it was just the smoke from the casino.

[JarrettFarms73]

Originally Posted by captrat What empirical evidence can you cite to support that this novel virus is not transferable in higher temperatures?

Honestly, i’m a bit surprised how many have seemingly dismissed the concept of calculated risk. I really thought race fans, especially sprint car fans, would almost unequivocally say yes to the OP’s question. It’s all good though and i’m actually kinda glad to see it. Discussing differences can help us grow as people. My dad is over the age of 70 and is a cancer survivor so his choice like so many of you is to wait longer. Fully respect his decision and all others for that matter.

I am however going to challenge this question. I find it at disingenuous as you most likely already understand the term “novel” as it’s used from time to time with this current pandemic.

For those that don’t, “novel” coronavirus means “new or unknown”. By its very definition there hasn’t been enough time to establish “empirical” evidence by scientific standards about ANYTHING related to C19.

This is the reason Fauci was quick to criticize and slow the excitement of doctors across the country reporting a high success rate of hydroxychloroquine for C19.

Let’s talk about the strand. We know it’s mutating at an unprecedented pace adding to the challenges ahead. That said, it’s currently believed the strand in China was NOT the same strand in Europe/ Italy and is NOT the same strand in the USA and other parts of the world.

April 24 - you may remember it as the whole lysol UV light in your body press conference, early testing shows the half life of the virus was significantly reduced with exposure to sunlight. Earlier studies believed the vast vast majority of C19 viral transfers occurred between 37 - 69 degrees. Combined with earlier versions of coronaviruses known to falter in warm weather (reason we call it “flu season”), it looks promising so far. Even if you reference transfers in warm places like Singapore, i’ll re-reference the aforementioned mutation rate and differences from geographic region to region.

New research also suggests the virus transfer through soft surfaces like cloth/ clothing is almost nonexistent. So why did the CDC recently about face regarding cloth masks? Did the N95 stock suddenly fill to max capacity? nope... those preliminary findings came out, without scientific standards empirical evidence i might add.

This next part i may be a little sensitive since my grandpa ended his life by swallowing a rifle years ago, but i read an article from USA today estimating 75,000 suicides related to this pandemic. Isn’t that almost the C19 numbers? If we don’t find a way to test the waters and slow open this economy, what’s going to happen to that number? A vaccine is at least a year out and an indefinite wait and see period is an absolute farce. So when is the right time to test the waters? SOMEBODY HAS TO BE THE FIRST.

As far as taking it home to loved ones, i could go to a race on Saturday, self isolate for 3 days while taking hot showers and proper cleansing techniques, go to visit my cancer survivor dad while social distancing including the wearing of masks and have almost the exact same probability of transferring a virus as if i stayed home all week and only went to the grocery store once. But instead we’ve been programmed to believe from day 1 that a positive C19 case is the equivalent of a 1980’s HIV diagnosis and were all gonna die.

BTW, my heart truly does break for anyone that has fought this or lost anyone to it. I have a high school classmate who’s stepdad fully recovered but his mom did not.

So back to is there “empirical” evidence that opening the tracks are 100% safe or that warm weather will help? No, not yet. Is there sufficient evidence that there is a way to open tracks and effectively minimize risk? my risk calculator based on science says YES!!

[DJlives]

Actually in a meeting with an official with IU Health about three weeks ago was the first time anyone in meetings I attend brought the notion that we may be dealing with multiple strains here ..and then the issue of mutation and staying on top of that is a challenge.

[Roy Bleckert]

Originally Posted by sw1911 that's a pretty hi tech question for a sprint car board

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