Dad

I think you should reconsider "DADS LIGHTNING AUTOMOTIVE" make me feel like your business is fast!!!!

You Indiana guys dont know how lucky you are to have 2 great traveling series, 2-3 tracks that have weekly LIGHTNING SPRINT CAR SHOWS! Here in the midwest if you are in the KC area your ONLY choice is to run one place. That hurts our growth a long with the mind set just to keep doing what we have been doing every year. Luckily we live 2 hr to the east so we can go other places but it still is a hall.

My point is Indiana is a great area to race, the hole state gets behind all types of racing so to say the name mini sprints has help grow the sport I would disagree. It is more the location you guys are at. Nothing to do with the name. I hate the name mini sprint and really not a big fan of lightning sprints but it is better then mini and more sanction bodys have gone this route so why not get behind this rather than re event the wheel?

I personally feel your and everyone efforts would be better spent trying to get all these groups to combine several race each year to help grow the sport even more. It would do the sport good to have several so called national event that the midwest racers could go to. One in Indiana, Illinois, Missouri, Colorado with pay out and rules that are the same. I really thought the Al.Archdale Memorial race would be the model for these events. If you and all the promoters would work together doing this it would do more to move this sport forward then a name change.

Well SAID Quantrill !!!!

Listen DAD my season went great we have a up and running lightning sprint and just purchased a micro to run at Hamlin. Add to the fact that I'm a smidge away from getting a corporate sponsor for our Big Block modified. I might be new to car owning but I've been on some of the best modified teams anywhere for over 35 years and I hold NY state Championships in two different forms of racing. Personally "I DONT GIVE A CRAP WHAT YOU RUN". All I stated was that around here any of the midget, mini, micro names wont work, if you want much interest. thats all I stated. Somebody is trying to break the mold of calling a car a micro or mini which in most places they think its a joke and wont even look into it. Or worse yet associate them with midgets so racers automatically think they cant afford one.

We do mufflers, Midas changed there name to "Midas Automotive" and tried doing everything, they went out of business here in Louisville. We still do about 90% exhaust work so changing the name to lightning automotive would be like lightning sprint I wouldn't tell the public who we are and what we did. I have a fortune invested in DADS MUFFLER and NO MUFF TOO TUFF and Like pp outlaw. People in Louisville know who DADS is and what we do. 7 out of some 40 some groups in the "US" and "CANADA" go by "Lightning" that does not make it the most popular or the best name for our sport. If you want national rules go to AMSA web-site under rules they have for years set the standard for mini sprint rules around the country. Granted "Mr KOOL AID" chose 750cc for his engine size he also chose "lightning sprint" for a name. So by rights you should also be racing a 750cc lightning sprint right now.

AMSA and MMSA have had different views on how to take the sport forward. The split has not hurt car count much for either group. It only has made the sport better. More cars came in to fill the gap. "COMPETITION" always improves the breed. One group trying to out do the other group, this is just like racing, don't you love it. Nothing has helped midget racing more than "POWERI" Kenny Brown hit a home run and realy grew the midget population in the real mid west. USAC had gotten a little stale and into itself. POWERI kinda of shuck them up a little and got them thinking again. Without a doubt someone can come up with something better than LIGHTNING AND MINI SPRINT>and old teacher of mine use to say "you arent thinking"!

If we combined the groups we would have upward of 45 or 50 cars at each race. Promoters really don't want those numbers and there would be a bunch of cars going home early that is as bad a living where you can't race every weekend. We enjoyed Peoria went a little fast and had hard time getting set up as we had to disconect or shocks that do about the same thing as a wing slider. We have already had many so called nationals drawing as many as 60 cars to a race. But only in a dictator group is every one going to be on the same page. But if you are good you will have a lot of followers. We are very lucky to have two Benevolent Dictators runing our groups. You can say all you want but they will make the final decishion, nothing worse than sitting around a meeting with 50 people all with the right idea.

We have 305 sprints, 360 sprints, 410 sprints. What about 1000cc sprints and 1200cc sprints. That would have to be a little closer to what we are than lightning or mini. Did you know that the front two rows of a 410 feature has more cubic inches than a whole field of 20 lightning sprints. You would not change the name of the groups just what you call the cars.

MMSA 1000cc winged sprints. SSLSS 1000cc non winged sprints. AMSA 1200cc winged sprints.

DAD, why not lose the "Sprint" extension, and call them what they are, 1000 Midget, or 600 Midget, you can add the sidewinders, and all the other variations, like 270 midget and etc, and get rid of the Sprint tag, just confuses most folks. JMHO! Bob!

Trying just one little baby step at a time. The Motor size is one way (and I think) a much better way to to show the difference in our cars instead of mini or lightning.

You and I both know what a midget is and is capable of doing. A lot of the younger people have never seen a midget race and combine "midget" with "mini" together and see a race car without "testosterone" . I wish they could go spend just one day at the chili bowl so they could see just what a midget can do.

Do u know CPR? U sure are beating this dead horse to death. Unless you're going to start you're own series this has about as much chance as a snow ball in hell of getting anyone to change there series name.
But if u are going to start one I still like Indiana lightning sprint association
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I like the idea of a 4" stretched midget frame with a V6 Ford escape motor. Bet it will never be lightning anything Maybe 3000 cc non winged sprint. Hell I'm too young to have a closed mind.


I did not say change the group name**** just****change the name of the damned race car in the adds and descriptions of the car.

You know I had the same type of people tell me that when I switched to the Yamaha 600 from a Honda f-3 and again when I switched to the Kawasaki ZX10r engine back in 04. But I still enjoy thinking outside the box, and proving them wrong. I like my "FSC midget chassis" and it does pretty good aganist the purpose built minsprints of the day.

ENJOY HAVE FUN

This is right off Jerrys AMSA website:

The 1000cc & 1200cc Lightning Mini Sprints will be running at the Tulsa Shootout.
More information in next week or so.

there you go..nuff said!!!

The rules are up for the

"Florida Lightning Sprints Winternationals"

look under tool bar "Winternationals" at www.sssprints.com