sure sometimes 50+ cars show up!

I also have to respectfully disagree with Duke. The problem is not the cars. Between HOSS, AVSS, and USAC, there are over 50 cars. The problem is getting all the cars to the track. For a winged guy to legally run USAC, it's not just a matter of taking the wing off. You have to buy four tires and a HANS device. Now, I have no problem with a HANS, but USAC uses different tires on all four corners. If all three groups would get together, it would be a lot easier for a winged guy to run USAC. And vise versa. And as Geoff Kiaser mentioned, MSA has two tire rule. I think this is a great idea.
I am a mediocre driver at best. And it's still a big deal for me to win a heat race. And nothing's more depressing then rolling out for a heat race a seeing guys with new biscuits on when I've got last weeks feature tire on. The two tire rule would be a great equalizer.
Now I'm going to say something that will shock the snot out of you. And please remember I'm a low dollar car owner/driver. And I'm a big non-winged dirt fan. But I can run pavement cheaper then I can run dirt!
Before all of you think that I've been smoking something I shouldn't, please read all of this. If I go to Gas City, I'd be lucky to make the feature. So, I'd probably be leaving with $50. Add in fuel for the truck, fuel for the car, and two pit passes, and I've lost about $100. And I haven't bought a tire or taken in effect any maintenance.
I could go to Paragon and be guaranteed to make a feature, but it only pays $100. And it's about 3-1/2 hours from home. So I'm probably losing about the same.
But if I run a HOSS race, it's rare for me to not make the feature. It pays at least $290. And even though I need to buy a right rear, I pretty well break even for the night.
But if we had the two tire rule, I think it would be a great equalizer throughout the field. And maybe it's a bit of ego talking, but maybe I could sneak intothe top five a bit more.

Tom Paterson
Sprint Car #11

we are talking usac sprints! Not winged sprints! If you racing to make money your in big trouble!

If you go to a mandatory chassis, that eliminates the locals because they are not going to buy a special chassis to run with USAC only. Limits where you can go race.

You can pick up a great pavement roller for $10,000 give or take a few thou. A Beast capable of winning. Within 6 races you will spend more on tires than the car cost. Without testing.

Again; with all due respect; we can talk about the past and all of that and there are lessons to be learned from the past; but we have to address the probloms we have today.

We already have a huge amount of pavement cars sitting and not racing. The cars are already there. The problem is getting those cars out of the garage. I don't believe the soloution is to eliminate their viability.

I keep hearing tires, what does HOSS and AVSS run? I have attended 10 or so HOSS races, they seem to always have right around 20 cars. These are deffinatly not high budget teams at all. They run for far less purse and less start money, yet they field 20 cars. And normally there are 5 to 6 guys that can easily win the race

Tires are the same size but the compounds are different.

why are they not racing? So whats your answer? And the local cars don't race pavement!!!!!!!!!!!

Are prices different to?

ok what does it cost to build a new frame?????????? To race both dirt & pavement! The tear up 30-50 frames a week racing dirt all over the country!!!!!!!! Lite wieght throw away junk!!!!!!!!! What locals run pavement????????????

As an owner, would you have kept racing on asphalt if you could have run the same car on dirt and pavement?