[Charles Nungester]

Adding to what Shortbus said, even the top teams might need a C and probably would apreciate the chance to advance thats not exclusive, Thats inclusive.

[Sprinter56]

is there a tire rule at danville

[Crankin]

Originally Posted by dshort36 knoke77.... i am not one to say where anyone should be playing exept for myself... what i was implying is that we should all live and play within our own means.....if we have to vacation to florida lets not be angry at those that get to go to australia... if we have to play at the 2 dollar blackjack table lets not look down at those who can afford to play at the 100 dollar table.....some people have bigger boats than others and some people make more money than others..... some people work harder than others and some have two jobs.....and some people have won the lottery..... and some people can afford to tour with usac and some cant......some can and choose to spend their moneys elsewhere and thats fine also.......oh and what makes me happy is being alive...... don short

...And if you we're my Daddy, I'd just get you to write the $1,415 check to USAC, so I could run 5 Dirt Car races!!! :applaud:

Originally Posted by dshort36 look its pretty simple........if you cant afford to play the dollar slots play the quarter.....if you cant afford to drive a cadillac drive a chevy...if you cant afford to run with usac run with another series or at a local track .... there are always options but remember a lot of those that can afford the larger things in life,or racing, couldnt always and had to work hard to get there

I am thinking of a word... It usually comes right after the word "pompous"...??? Hell, let's just make it open engines, tires, shocks, and $3,000 entry fees (just like Indy!), because YOU can afford it!!!

[sprintcar64]

I will agree with the original point that Kevin is trying to make, that if you show up and race you should be compensated.

My opinion on one of the other subjects this thread has brought up, the format is just fine. If you are going to tweak it at all take the top 4 out of two NQ races and add one more row to each heat.

Originally Posted by dshort36 knoke77.... i am not one to say where anyone should be playing exept for myself... what i was implying is that we should all live and play within our own means.....if we have to vacation to florida lets not be angry at those that get to go to australia... if we have to play at the 2 dollar blackjack table lets not look down at those who can afford to play at the 100 dollar table.....some people have bigger boats than others and some people make more money than others..... some people work harder than others and some have two jobs.....and some people have won the lottery..... and some people can afford to tour with usac and some cant......some can and choose to spend their moneys elsewhere and thats fine also.......oh and what makes me happy is being alive...... don short

This is pretty funny. I would like to know which USAC official walks into the gate at the beginning of the race and walks out of the gate at the end of the night with a $0 paycheck for his efforts? It's a play day after all. I think USAC should set everyone's salary back to $0, and be happy just for being alive!!

And some people can afford to tour with USAC, but others decide we have more fun at the casinos, horse racing, on our boats, or the OTHER OPTIONS that we Owners have in life. We are not always broke, we have CHOICES.

As you stated in your post, "some can and choose to spend their moneys elsewhere and thats fine also". Where in Kevin's original e-mail does he state that he CANNOT AFFORD the extra fees for entry fees? What I read is that he is choosing to spend his money elsewhere. Plain and simple. Many owners are making that choice.

If you don't believe it, do some research to find out the decline in USAC's revenues and membership fees year-over-year. It's has been declining every year. As a non-profit, USAC's tax records are public information. It's not hard to find them.

Originally Posted by sprintcar64 I will agree with the original point that Kevin is trying to make, that if you show up and race you should be compensated.

Well said. If you show up and race, or officiate, or sell hot dogs in the stand, you should be compensated.

[Dirtfan]

Originally Posted by Sprinter56 is there a tire rule at danville

Jared, DT3 I believe is the tire of preferance. Ty or Jon going there?
http://www.vermilioncountyspeedway.u...printrules.htm

[PJ Wright]

Originally Posted by Silvercrown90 Well said. If you show up and race, or officiate, or sell hot dogs in the stand, you should be compensated.

IMO, The notion that any team who makes an honest attempt to race should leave with nothing is indefensible.

I always pull for the guys I perceive to be under-funded. Years ago, at a WoO race, pitted right in the middle of the high dollar rigs was a guy with an open trailer being pulled by an Olds Vista Cruiser station wagon. I don't remember who won that night, but I do remember the guy with the Olds. I'm not envious of those with lots of cash, but I sure enjoy seeing somebody do more with less.

[AERO410SCJA]

Timmy Kuhn:idea::thumb

[Eagle14]

Originally Posted by Crankin ...And if you we're my Daddy, I'd just get you to write the $1,415 check to USAC, so I could run 5 Dirt Car races!!! :applaud: I am thinking of a word... It usually comes right after the word "pompous"...??? Hell, let's just make it open engines, tires, shocks, and $3,000 entry fees (just like Indy!), because YOU can afford it!!!

SWEET WORD ASSOCIATION GAMES.... K K MY TURN. Ok first one:

Crankin.... I'm thinking of a word.... K...it happens when 2 females sometimes fight over a male... I'll give you a hint.. ***lous... k

NEXT point... Don is not sitting here saying anything negative or personal about anyone or any one team, he made a clear and accurate statement.. it is a matter of choosing the correct choice for yourself financially and your race team.....

So at what point was it necessary to say Don is a pompus A$$ YEA I am good at word games... maybe you should ask him how much he has worked... and such..just for prior knowledge and internal reference... but hey thats just coming from someone who does know the Short's..... so again.... I ask

At what point was it needed to attack him about his choices with Don Short Racing...does anyone ask about your choices with your car or team? Just curious.... How about bashing on Craig Armstrong.... you know he's got 3-4 cars.. big toter runs USAC... .. hmmm i dunno Coleman Gulick.... plenty more of others out there who can afford to have these opportunities..why not pointing them out? Just enlighten us all on your Pompus a$$ remark.. I am curious.... Whats our next game... fill in blank.. or Wheel of Insults?:thumb