[motorhead748]

I’ve owned, drove & paid for my own cars for 20 years. I started out non wing but after a couple years I figured out wings were a better choice for me. I like it all but it’s wings for me even as a spectator

[motorhead748]

Originally Posted by Charles Nungester Name me the exclusively Winged drivers excelling at any other type of motorsports? I'll wait.

They don’t have to nor do they have the time. They can run for good money upwards of 100 times per year. Even the Ohio cars can run 50-70 and depending on where they live not travel more than 100 miles.
And another thing most of them them don’t have aspirations of making it to the big stage, they are passionate about where they’re at. I’m not saying at all that the NW guys aren’t passionate but if you think it’s the same I’d disagree. I’ve been on both sides.

[Rhody]

Originally Posted by flagboy55 Don’t call Jac exclusively a winger. He ran both effectively

You are proving my earlier point. The second a guy races without a wing he is no longer "exclusively" a wing racer, so the wing crowd cannot claim him as one of their own. That guarantees the win for the "exclusively wing racers never do well in anything else" faction. That statement precludes any other outcome, by definition.

[sw1911]

Originally Posted by oldfan49 Again living in winged car country I have noticed they don't like water. It's common for the tracks to take rubber and that is what they seam to prefer. If that happens at a non wing race the crowd is ready to hang the promoter, At a winged car race the majority of the fans only talk about how awesomely fast the cars were and wipe the layer of dust off their vehicles and smile all the way home. That seems to be something the winged car fans have in common with the NASCAR, Modified, and late model fans. They don't car if the race is single file. A lot of fans don't seem to care if there is actually any racing going on. (although they do get excited when someone "moves" a car with the bumper is seems) I went to a USMTS race a couple of years ago and the leaders caught the lappers with 8 laps and just followed them to the finish scared to get out of the rubber and get freight trained. Sitting at turn 4 you couldn't see the cars in turn 1 and most of 2 for the dust. Going to the car all you heard was how awesome that race was.

Every race seems to have a few fans that are there for the noise. In my observation WoO has more of these than USAC.

[Rhody]

Also, to some people (me) lap times matter. A few years back I went to New Smyrna, FL for a weekly show. They had a sportsman class and Super late models. The SLM were about 2 seconds faster, but there were only 4 of them. I was more entertained by 4 slm racing in 2 groups of 2 than I was by 24 sportsman running close together. Don't ask me why, but I just prefer higher speed racing. Yes, I prefer wings, no I don't run around telling people that NW sucks, unlike Non Wing fans who like to bash wing racing.

[revjimk]

Originally Posted by Puppy I know everyone see's everything different, even picking apart racing into a million little pieces... "I HAVE TO SEE PASSING, OR I"M NOT GOING BACK!" or I HATE WINGS ,IT DOESNT TAKE ANY TALENT TO DRIVE THOSE THINGS" or "IT WAS TOO DUSTY" or "IF I DIDNT SEE HIM RUN AT KOKOMO HE ISNT A REAL DRIVER".... Really people? Are we son spoiled that if we dont see EXACTLY what we want at a race we are miffed beyond repair? What about just enjoying being at the track and watching the fastest guys hustle it around and win? Hey sometimes the fast guys stink up the show but who cares? Lets be a little more realistic, do you really want someone to MANUFACTURE close racing? That what NASCAR tries to do and not too many people are happy with them!!! Besides if you aren't a hardcore race fan(Someone that finds other things to watch if the battle isn't for the lead, among other things) you can always get out your phone and doodle a bit if you get too BORED if the race isn't going exactly like you want it to...

I like 'em both, live a lot closer to wing racing, but prefer wingless, try to attend all the USAC Pennsyltucky tours. I don't know if people are dissing wings here, maybe a few Hoosier purists.... you guys don't know how good you have it!

[revjimk]

Originally Posted by Rhody You are proving my earlier point. The second a guy races without a wing he is no longer "exclusively" a wing racer, so the wing crowd cannot claim him as one of their own. That guarantees the win for the "exclusively wing racers never do well in anything else" faction. That statement precludes any other outcome, by definition.

Beat me to it.... just like on Hoseheads, some people diss the Pa.Posse cause they "don't leave the porch"... soon as they leave, they're "not Posse".... can't win
"Durned if I do & danged if I don't"... somebody needs to write a country song about it...

[Charles Nungester]

Originally Posted by motorhead748 They don’t have to nor do they have the time. They can run for good money upwards of 100 times per year. Even the Ohio cars can run 50-70 and depending on where they live not travel more than 100 miles. And another thing most of them them don’t have aspirations of making it to the big stage, they are passionate about where they’re at. I’m not saying at all that the NW guys aren’t passionate but if you think it’s the same I’d disagree. I’ve been on both sides.

Exactly the answer I come up with. But better said.

[oldfan49]

I would guess one advantage of running USAC would be that they get to sleep in their own bed a lot more the WoO guys do. not to mention a lot less traveling costs.

As for the "just be glad you are at a racetrack even if the racing sucks" crowd. I grew up going home sleeping in truck pulling a super mod 4 or 5 nights a week I used to be in that crowd and I hunted for a race to go to every night there was one no matter what. . Then I woke up and asked why if the racing wasn't enjoyable.

I live in Kansas City on the Kansas side, as I type this I am sitting in a Hotel in Kokomo. I attend more races in Indiana in a year than I do in Kansas and Missouri for the simple fact the quality of the racing is that much better and even with the travel it is a better bang for the buck.

Some of you really underappreciate what you have in your own back yard.

[Dirtfan]

"You all really underappreciate what you have in your own back yard."

Interesting statement you made,maybe one shouldn't be so quick to pass judgment on "we"all.