Financial Adviser's Phone Number Please?

DonMoore10 · 12/11/08, 12:25 PM

Baue, the midget community and how they go about their business reminds me of my days back in the late 50's and 60's when I would visit my relatives that lived in West Point, Mississippi. I saw first hand the discrimation that was rampant during those times. Not going to go into detail but if you don't know what I'm talking about, read the history books about how blacks and whites lived in the South during that time.

My point is this. The South lived a certain way and everyone accepted it as the way it was. Most of them didn't know any better. Hey, aren't the minorities supposed to ride the back of the bus, use separate restrooms, banned from restaurants etc etc etc? Yeah... that's the way it is!!! WRONG!! Wow.. I didn't see any of that in my neighborhood in Ohio. What's going on here in Mississippi anyway?? and my relatives thought I was absolutely crazy for even questioning how society operated in the South!!! True story!

Well, when you visit there today, society has made a complete 360.

The midget community accepts the way things are done today.... teams spending millions of dollars to win $2500. Is this about the craziest thing that anybody could imagine? I could go on and on, but that is just one example of what everyone considers NORMAL. Hey... wakeup race people. That's not normal!!!!

Why are the main attractions (drivers and owners of race cars) charged an entry fee and pit passes to put on a show at a race track?? I had a band for many years that entertained people in restaurants and other places. Gosh... never paid an entry fee to get into the place and I didn't have to purchase a lounge pass or party pass. So...how crazy is it that we have to pay and entry fee and pit pass?? Does the water truck guy buy a pit pass and pay an entry fee? Actually he probably walks out of the race track with more money in his pocket than the owners and drivers in some situations. do you attend a race track to see Joe the water truck guy?

The views that I express on here are not necessarily reflective of my midget operation. I operate within the sytem. I have no choice. I have to deal with a monopoly tire deal that does not benefit me one second. Why should I pay full price for tires while others get tire deals (discounts), some get free tires and only the top people in points get a kickback... all under the umbrella of a monopoly. Does not make sense at all.

And now the very sad news. I hope all you race fans enjoy the FOUR... that's F O U R short track USAC dirt races in Indiana for 2009 cause that's all there is folks. Watch out... they will here and gone in June before you can say "TIRE MONOPOLY" I'll say that again.. FOUR. Now for you people that think midget racing is doing just fine....... well..... YEAH, THAT'S THE WAY IT IS!!!!

DonMoore10 · 12/11/08, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by E.P.

How boring is my life when this thread is the highlight of my day? :O:

DonMoore10 have you called USAC and asked for the testing results? No.

Have you called Hoosier and asked them for their testing results? No.

Have you disclosed all of your professional affiliations to the masses so we can finally see once and for all what lobbyist you have inyour back pocket? No.

As I have stated several times in the past your argument would be taken more seriously if you took the conversation to the parties you are complaining about. If you did and found out there is no testing or no release of information etc. then come in here and do your dog and pony show.

I've talked to Kevin Miller face to face, thanks.

Kirk Spridgeon · 12/11/08, 12:50 PM

Don,
I'll look you up in Tulsa. Should be enlightening...

interpreter66 · 12/11/08, 1:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DonMoore10

Hit me up at the Silly Bowl and I will tell you in person. Plan on being there a few minutes.

don
first let me say this is an honest question not a bash or any hidden agenda.
why do you go to the silly bowl (your word's) when you are always bashing them?

DonMoore10 · 12/11/08, 1:36 PM

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Originally Posted by interpreter66

don
first let me say this is an honest question not a bash or any hidden agenda.
why do you go to the silly bowl (your word's) when you are always bashing them?

Well, thanks Mr. Interpreter for the question.

Yeah... crazy people actually post on IOW that they saw me at the Silly Bowl. I guess it's kind of like seeing Elvis at the Burger King or something. I dunno. Maybe Oprah and Ellen will be calling soon.

So here goes. The two promoters get an A+ for the spectator side of the event and an F------- (those are minuses) for the car owner side unless you're one of the anointed that get everything free (4 star hotel rooms for example) plus a stipend for appearing. BTW, I did once get an F+ on a history test in high skool. I never could figure out how that worked. Let's see.. I'm failing but doing a good job of it??

So, yeah.. the Silly Bowl. Great entertainment, great people surround me in the stands, just an overall wonderful time..... as a spectator! Any more questions?

interpreter66 · 12/11/08, 2:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DonMoore10

Well, thanks Mr. Interpreter for the question.

Yeah... crazy people actually post on IOW that they saw me at the Silly Bowl. I guess it's kind of like seeing Elvis at the Burger King or something. I dunno. Maybe Oprah and Ellen will be calling soon.

So here goes. The two promoters get an A+ for the spectator side of the event and an F------- (those are minuses) for the car owner side unless you're one of the anointed that get everything free (4 star hotel rooms for example) plus a stipend for appearing. BTW, I did once get an F+ on a history test in high skool. I never could figure out how that worked. Let's see.. I'm failing but doing a good job of it??

So, yeah.. the Silly Bowl. Great entertainment, great people surround me in the stands, just an overall wonderful time..... as a spectator! Any more questions?

no more question's at this time, thank's for the answer.
ill sit back and watch(in this case read ) the show:wink

oops!just thought of another question
let's say for argument's sake that tommorrow you became one of the anointed few would you load your car and go?

DonMoore10 · 12/11/08, 2:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by interpreter66

no more question's at this time, thank's for the answer.
ill sit back and watch(in this case read ) the show:wink

oops!just thought of another question
let's say for argument's sake that tommorrow you became one of the anointed few would you load your car and go?

Yeah, show me the money.....

767 · 12/11/08, 2:44 PM

Don understand your rant on pit passes and entry fee's. question I have is, why should a track have to pay a sanctioning fee just to be able to let you guys run there? It is odviouse that you are a bright guy, why don't you go out and get a series going the way you think it should, or even get midgets back to just 1 track on a weekly basis? I mean lets face it you race in a seriers where you can not have a real job. They travel all over the place and even when they come to a local track you have to take the day off because you have to be to the track before it opens for drivers meeting. This series quit thinking about the little guy 10 years ago.

DonMoore10 · 12/11/08, 2:58 PM

Well, just think what an absolute pleasure it will be to race USAC midgets on short tracks in Indiana in 2009. Only four of them. And they're all in four days. Four for four. Kinda like that TV pizza ad. So this will be the shortest darn USAC short track midget season of all time. 2010 three races, 2011 2 races, 2012 1 race and then BINGO... 2013, no more midget races!!!

Kirk Spridgeon · 12/11/08, 3:10 PM

Don-
So were there more short-track midget races in Indiana last year? Or the year before? Or the year before that? Or the five years before that?

If USAC has midget races at Kokomo, Lawrenceburg, Gas City, Bloomington, and Haubstadt, where else should be they be expected to go? Remember, too much supply lowers demand. And at the end of the day, tracks have to be willing to schedule such races in order for them to be run. Of course, there are no other sanctioning bodies running midget races in Indiana, so you can't expect them to do it, either.

Indiana Midget Week has grown to be a pretty good thing. And USAC seems to be the only way we get midget racing in Indiana, so I'm not going to whine about the good things they're doing. I just can't see how anyone will ever meet your expectations, Mr. Moore.

12/11/08, 12:25 PM	#61 Re: Financial Adviser's Phone Number Please?
DonMoore10 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,474	Baue, the midget community and how they go about their business reminds me of my days back in the late 50's and 60's when I would visit my relatives that lived in West Point, Mississippi. I saw first hand the discrimation that was rampant during those times. Not going to go into detail but if you don't know what I'm talking about, read the history books about how blacks and whites lived in the South during that time. My point is this. The South lived a certain way and everyone accepted it as the way it was. Most of them didn't know any better. Hey, aren't the minorities supposed to ride the back of the bus, use separate restrooms, banned from restaurants etc etc etc? Yeah... that's the way it is!!! WRONG!! Wow.. I didn't see any of that in my neighborhood in Ohio. What's going on here in Mississippi anyway?? and my relatives thought I was absolutely crazy for even questioning how society operated in the South!!! True story! Well, when you visit there today, society has made a complete 360. The midget community accepts the way things are done today.... teams spending millions of dollars to win $2500. Is this about the craziest thing that anybody could imagine? I could go on and on, but that is just one example of what everyone considers NORMAL. Hey... wakeup race people. That's not normal!!!! Why are the main attractions (drivers and owners of race cars) charged an entry fee and pit passes to put on a show at a race track?? I had a band for many years that entertained people in restaurants and other places. Gosh... never paid an entry fee to get into the place and I didn't have to purchase a lounge pass or party pass. So...how crazy is it that we have to pay and entry fee and pit pass?? Does the water truck guy buy a pit pass and pay an entry fee? Actually he probably walks out of the race track with more money in his pocket than the owners and drivers in some situations. do you attend a race track to see Joe the water truck guy? The views that I express on here are not necessarily reflective of my midget operation. I operate within the sytem. I have no choice. I have to deal with a monopoly tire deal that does not benefit me one second. Why should I pay full price for tires while others get tire deals (discounts), some get free tires and only the top people in points get a kickback... all under the umbrella of a monopoly. Does not make sense at all. And now the very sad news. I hope all you race fans enjoy the FOUR... that's F O U R short track USAC dirt races in Indiana for 2009 cause that's all there is folks. Watch out... they will here and gone in June before you can say "TIRE MONOPOLY" I'll say that again.. FOUR. Now for you people that think midget racing is doing just fine....... well..... YEAH, THAT'S THE WAY IT IS!!!! _________________________________________________ Last edited by DonMoore10; 12/11/08 at 12:35 PM.

12/11/08, 2:58 PM	#69 Re: Financial Adviser's Phone Number Please?
DonMoore10 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,474	Well, just think what an absolute pleasure it will be to race USAC midgets on short tracks in Indiana in 2009. Only four of them. And they're all in four days. Four for four. Kinda like that TV pizza ad. So this will be the shortest darn USAC short track midget season of all time. 2010 three races, 2011 2 races, 2012 1 race and then BINGO... 2013, no more midget races!!! _________________________________________________ Last edited by DonMoore10; 12/11/08 at 3:00 PM.

12/11/08, 12:50 PM	#63 Re: Financial Adviser's Phone Number Please?
Kirk Spridgeon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 802	Don, I'll look you up in Tulsa. Should be enlightening...

12/11/08, 2:44 PM	#68 Re: Financial Adviser's Phone Number Please?
767 Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,119	Don understand your rant on pit passes and entry fee's. question I have is, why should a track have to pay a sanctioning fee just to be able to let you guys run there? It is odviouse that you are a bright guy, why don't you go out and get a series going the way you think it should, or even get midgets back to just 1 track on a weekly basis? I mean lets face it you race in a seriers where you can not have a real job. They travel all over the place and even when they come to a local track you have to take the day off because you have to be to the track before it opens for drivers meeting. This series quit thinking about the little guy 10 years ago.

12/11/08, 3:10 PM	#70 Re: Financial Adviser's Phone Number Please?
Kirk Spridgeon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 802	Don- So were there more short-track midget races in Indiana last year? Or the year before? Or the year before that? Or the five years before that? If USAC has midget races at Kokomo, Lawrenceburg, Gas City, Bloomington, and Haubstadt, where else should be they be expected to go? Remember, too much supply lowers demand. And at the end of the day, tracks have to be willing to schedule such races in order for them to be run. Of course, there are no other sanctioning bodies running midget races in Indiana, so you can't expect them to do it, either. Indiana Midget Week has grown to be a pretty good thing. And USAC seems to be the only way we get midget racing in Indiana, so I'm not going to whine about the good things they're doing. I just can't see how anyone will ever meet your expectations, Mr. Moore.