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COTTLE FAN (Offline)
  #41 7/23/08 7:29 AM
Originally Posted by SUPERDUKE:
:redflag:
TAKE THE WING OFF AND GO RACING!:redflag:
taking the wing off on a track like that would get somebody killed
Charles Nungester (Offline)
  #42 7/23/08 7:45 AM
Originally Posted by COTTLE FAN:
taking the wing off on a track like that would get somebody killed

Basically they ran the TQ midgets non winged the second night of Sprintweek and when I timed em and the mini sprints there was one second difference at practice night.

Charles Nungester
SUPERDUKE (Offline)
  #43 7/23/08 8:01 AM
Originally Posted by COTTLE FAN:
taking the wing off on a track like that would get somebody killed
I SURE WOULD NOT DRIVE A CAR LIKE THAT!:redflag:
Jim Gardner (Offline)
  #44 7/23/08 9:45 AM
To give some feedback Phil. I have ran both with and without wings at Lawrenceburg this year and I don't believe the mini sprint wing breaks the line of sight between the driver and the flagman any more so than a non wing car. I think that the reason we are seeing more false starts and jumps than in years past is because the driver's start mindset is backwards.

Usually you focus on the polesitter, and keep the flagman in your peripheral vision. It is much easier to remain in formation waiting for the green because the focus is on the other cars and when they fire.

With the new rule you focus on the flagman a couple hundred feet away and therefore it is harder to remain in a good 2 by 2 formation and take off in sync with the rest of the field.

And on another note I would love to run a non wing mini sprint race over at Lawrenceburg. Those indoor races over at Duquoin two winters ago were a blast to run, we had to get up on the wheel and drive those cars, although the place was so small we couldn't really stretch the car's legs. At funfest last year the 600 non wing cars put on one of the best races there, and I believe that the 1000s will allow for more passing, slidejobs, and two grooved racing. It would be something different.

Jim Gardner
slide22 (Offline)
  #45 7/23/08 11:04 AM
Mini Sprints shouldn't even be running at Lawrenceburg. Its not a drivers track, whoever has the biggest motor is going to win... Its like driving on asphault. The biggest these cars should be on is 1/4 mile, except maybe twin cities
BOUNCE (Offline)
  #46 7/23/08 12:56 PM
Bad starts are becoming a bad practice everywhere. I've been attending open wheel races for over 40 yrs. and would say that many drivers have no clue how to even line up and start/restart. It's not a question of the driver's ability to stand on the gas, it is more an issue of learning what it is all about! Many drivers don't even realize that the fans are getting ripped off! It is all about putting on a show...close competition! Look at the Indy 500... what excites any race fan is the 3 abreast perfectly aligned start. When's the last time we really saw that? Now at Indy they are "racing before they ever get to turn 4! So what, let the first lap be all about getting up to speed! Start at the flag stand! Someone stated "that driver's might crash at the green"...ol' Dizz Wilson would fire 'em for crashing his race car on the green flag start!
SUPERDUKE (Offline)
  #47 7/23/08 3:29 PM
:applaud:
Originally Posted by BOUNCE:
Bad starts are becoming a bad practice everywhere. I've been attending open wheel races for over 40 yrs. and would say that many drivers have no clue how to even line up and start/restart. It's not a question of the driver's ability to stand on the gas, it is more an issue of learning what it is all about! Many drivers don't even realize that the fans are getting ripped off! It is all about putting on a show...close competition! Look at the Indy 500... what excites any race fan is the 3 abreast perfectly aligned start. When's the last time we really saw that? Now at Indy they are "racing before they ever get to turn 4! So what, let the first lap be all about getting up to speed! Start at the flag stand! Someone stated "that driver's might crash at the green"...ol' Dizz Wilson would fire 'em for crashing his race car on the green flag start!
YOUR 100% RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :applaud::greenflag:
COTTLE FAN (Offline)
  #48 7/23/08 10:44 PM
Originally Posted by slide22:
Mini Sprints shouldn't even be running at Lawrenceburg. Its not a drivers track, whoever has the biggest motor is going to win... Its like driving on asphault. The biggest these cars should be on is 1/4 mile, except maybe twin cities
i disagree the most a minisprints motor can be in amsa is 1200cc,and they teck random peoples motors so they kno there not cheating
SUPERDUKE (Offline)
  #49 7/23/08 10:59 PM
Originally Posted by COTTLE FAN:
i disagree the most a minisprints motor can be in amsa is 1200cc,and they teck random peoples motors so they kno there not cheating
GET BACK TO THE FLAGMAN STARTING THE RACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:moon:
mroutlaw101
  #50 7/24/08 4:57 AM
well I cant say I have ever seen a worse flagman,. To bad they can't just start via the raceceivers. I say the best way would be to give them a 20 yard section that once the pole sitter there he can go within that range. It is alot easier to just pay attention to the cars in front of you. All this does is tear stuff up. He dosent even notice trouble till its almost too late. I think this is something all the drivers need to get together with an figure out a better way.
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